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Hey guys,

I recently purchased this R190 series truck from a junk yard. The truck use to be used as a dairy truck in Athens Louisiana. I am trying to figure out what year model the truck it and I have looked at the Wisconsin’s serial number list but with no luck. I am thinking the FD in the serial number is meaning it was made in the Fort Wayne plant. The truck is set up with a 406 to run off propane. Is this a factory option? I have read where I think they are offered from the factory to run of of LP.

Model R 195 A

serial # FD 34339 F

W.B. 142

Any info would be greatly aprreciated. My plans are to blow the truck apart and put a modern running gear under it like a 2007 F550 4X4 with a 12v Cummins I have already rebuilt looking for a home. 

Thanks guys,

Bubba 

 

 

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That is in really good shape. Definitly built I Ft. Wayne. IH would build a truck to customer specs so that is most likely came from the factory that way. If you could get the line ticket it would tell you. There is a saying that Harvester built three million trucks and none of them are the same. Looks like a fun project, keep us posted on progress.

Dennis

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51 minutes ago, jingles1928 said:

There is a saying that Harvester built three million trucks and none of them are the same. 

Dennis

Mr. Goodwrench, head of the repair shop for the company I drove for was the first to tell me that.  His prior job was Service Shop Manager for Riverside IH truck dealer in Davenport, Iowa.  He sure would have known!

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My 1959 r190 fire truck has the FD prefix in the serial number.  Always thought it meant fire truck. Are they any extra switches or hole where lites might have been mounted. I see the extra spotlights on the roof.

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Thanks guys for the replies. I will definetly keep y’all updated as the build process goes on. I plan on trying to sell the running gear (motor, trans, rearend) if there is any interest in this items. I guess the best place to put this will be on the parts forum? 

Thanks 

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Thanks for the replies. The truck has the push button door handles. As for the floor in the truck it’s in pretty good shape other than where they bolt the floor to the back panel together. It is completely rusted out. 

Here are a few pictures of my slow process of the build. I plan on wet sanding the truck down to expose the original paint, and treat the rust with CLR, after replacing the rotted out metal with new. Also here is a picture of the motor I pulled out of a wrecked truck and rebuilt. 19AECD60-7551-4624-8349-4B13DDBB68BC.thumb.jpeg.dd8315b9da6f491c90e98adff08442a2.jpeg

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Very cool. Any more progress?

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I have t made much progress due to now I have a 3 month old boy who I’m excited to watch grow up and enjoy the love of these old machines. So far I have stripped the frame down to nothing. I have 90% of he rusted out metal replaced (floor, firewall, back of the cab, and spots on the fenders) I will keep y’all up dated as I go!! Thanks Mountain Heritage for asking about the ol girl! I named her Elsie from the Borden’s cow since this use to be a dairy truck! I still have to idea what year this thing is though. I sending my info up to Wisconsin Historical Society!!

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Show on MAV -TV called Full Custom Garage, Ian Royssel remodeled an R-190 from a heavy-duty winch truck to a glorified 1 ton pickup you could pull trailers with or haul firewood.  He kept the original RD-450 engine, forget what transmission it had. He got a full set of Alcoa wheels for it, pin striped it,  made it new but looked old.  Sharp truck.

Who would have thought an old Binder would become today's hot-rod truck!

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On 7/15/2018 at 8:12 AM, jingles1928 said:

That is in really good shape. Definitly built I Ft. Wayne. IH would build a truck to customer specs so that is most likely came from the factory that way. If you could get the line ticket it would tell you. There is a saying that Harvester built three million trucks and none of them are the same. Looks like a fun project, keep us posted on progress.

Dennis

Good urban legend.  Didn't you ever hear of fleet trucks, all built the same?

 

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3 hours ago, Howard_P said:

Good urban legend.  Didn't you ever hear of fleet trucks, all built the same?

 

Drove a bunch of them. Retired Teamster here. First one was 4200 Transtar for a Dayton Steel Foundry in "72. IIRC leased from Hertz. Had about ten of them. Last one was a freight truck for USF Holland in 2007. Don't remember series number, but they had a bunch of them. Lot of them in between. Favorite one was the 4200, 903 Cummins with 10 speed fuller. Pretty thirsty truck but would pull top off of mountain.

Dennis

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This is a very cool truck, good job on the rescue!! I drove Int trucks, 18 wheelers for yrs working in the oilfield.

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On 7/25/2019 at 9:07 PM, Howard_P said:

Good urban legend.  Didn't you ever hear of fleet trucks, all built the same?

 

Yep, Mr. GOODWRENCH who I mentioned above said companies like Schneider Trucking, JB Hunt, Saunders Leasing, Ruan, even FS learned to take them apart before ordering parts, just because they had consecutive serial numbers doesn't mean they are the same.

I imagine the truck side of IH was like the ag tractor side of the business,  we built 145-150 tractors a day and no two would be the same. The Taco tractors were about as close to the same within the batches as we ever came.

I think maybe in the "Olden Days" back in the 1940's and '50's component part variation was less,  but in the war years lots of part substitution went on.

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Just a quick update, I got the line setting ticket and wouldn’t you know it, it doesn’t have the year! But after some research and talking I’m pretty sure it’s a 1963. Anyways  I’ve got the cab and front clip now resting on the 07 F550 frame after I shortened it 32”. I have also mocked up the motor with radiator and intercooler. Now for all the little things to be mocked up before I blow it apart and paint it all. Still thinking of leaving the patina look. Also I have replaced all the rusted out metal other than above the back window(that’s the next step). I also shortened the steps to fit on the new frame but I am in need of the panel that screws on to cover my batteries on the drivers side. Does anyone know where I can locate one?? Thanks guys, hope your enjoying the SLOW progress.

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Years ago I had a 67 RF190 and I am sure that's the style steering column it had. It had push button door handle too, never saw that before.

DWF

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Awesome looking truck!  I have a similar, but almost opposite project -  A 60’s Mercury (same as Ford) F700 on a newer IH frame.    It looks you had to cut a similar sized hole in the firewall.  Are you doing a removable doghouse, or welding it in?  That part of the project was a bit of a pain for me - fun but lots of time to get it right. 

It’s coming along great!  That newer chassis will make the truck way more drivable.  I took 5 or 6 years to get mine nearly done - if I tried to rush it any quicker, it would have felt like a job and not as much fun.  It looks like you are doing it right - that so much more important than doing it fast!

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On 6/14/2020 at 3:48 PM, Sask466 said:

Sask466 

here is a picture of how I did the firewall. Sounds like you have an awesome project you built, I would love to see a picture of it!!

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On 6/11/2020 at 11:40 AM, Bubba_LA said:

Just a quick update, I got the line setting ticket and wouldn’t you know it, it doesn’t have the year! But after some research and talking I’m pretty sure it’s a 1963. 

 

 

 

 

If your lineset has a page 2 with it, look at the bottom for the date it was roll tested.  But perhaps they didn't show it the same way back in the 60s.

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