Paystar5000 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, WESnIL said: I would seriously consider a Ram. My 2500 has the 5.7 with 6 speed automatic and 3.73 rears and it will haul anything I put behind it. At the top end that has been about 7K of tractor and implements on a 2,000 pound aluminum trailer. Under certain road, load, and wind conditions I will lock it down into 5th gear and you never see the speed vary. Reasonable ride quality when empty realizing that is/should be the norm if you want hauling/pulling capacity on the other end of that ride quality scale. Using it as an errand type truck it is easily capable of 16+ mpg. In talking with Chevy/GMC owners I doubt that the GM 6.0 will accomplish those numbers. Loaded fuel mileage can be in the single digits but it gets the job done. 16 mpg would be great because I use my truck for everything from hauling firewood to groceries. I know my 5.4 and the 6.0’s at work get 12 tops. I know of two guys who had dodge 2500 with the 5.7 and went the the 6.4 and were really impressed with the power. Seemed to think the mileage was good but didn’t give me numbers. I for one would sacrifice a little power if I could get 16 mpg getting the groceries. I have never had a dodge so I don’t know a thing about them but we had never had a Subaru until just recently and that has been good so maybe this is good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Hillbilly Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Got a Ford 6.2 at work. Gets 14-16 empty on the highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I’m on my 3rd 6.0 Dad on his first. Between them almost 400k trouble free miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 My friend has one with 280k 1 new trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsfull Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Pete1468 said: Now if one of the manufacturers would realize the boxes are way too high in the air to use, I'd be happy. That's the truth. I got so tired of not being able to reach past the open tailgate that I went this route. Flatbed farm truck is the handiest tool ever. I also have a 2004 2500hd with the 6 liter. Was never disappointed with the 6.0 till I drove the duramax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mader656 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 minute ago, barnsfull said: That's the truth. I got so tired of not being able to reach past the open tailgate that I went this route. Flatbed farm truck is the handiest tool ever. I also have a 2004 2500hd with the 6 liter. Was never disappointed with the 6.0 till I drove the duramax. X2 on the flatbed. I put it on because fence work destroys beds. That red is sharp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, mader656 said: X2 on the flatbed. I put it on because fence work destroys beds. That red is sharp... X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, vtfireman85 said: X3 They are the norm here. Although it is nice to have one with a box on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes806 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 4 hours ago, IHCPloughman said: I'm a little disappointed in my 2007 Dodge 3500 with the 5.9 Cummins right now. Has 182k on it, injectors have 50k on them and one is hanging open. If I replace all of the injectors it will probably be a $3000 job with me doing the work. I thought it was my dream pick-up when I bought it 6 years ago, but I have been less than impressed. 14 mpg empty, 9 mpg pulling 11,000 lbs behind me. I suppose the beauty in the diesel engine is I can, and have, pulled 26,000 (32k GCW) and got about the same mileage, 8-9 mpg. But, it takes the engine so long to warm up in the winter that I need to wear insulated boots and coveralls to be comfortable driving 25 miles into work. The cab just gets comfortable after 20 minutes but once I get off the interstate and hit the city street the engine temp starts dropping. Small trip through town, forget about warming up enough to defrost the windshield. So, between the so-so fuel economy, expensive injectors, and cold winter driving, I am looking at 3-5 year old gas pickups. I think a 6.4 hemi, 6.2 chevy, or 6.2 ford would do what I need to do. I am also questioning my vehicle strategy. I drive a car to work and put 20k miles on it per year. The pick-up gets 5k-10k miles on it per year. I was hoping to keep the pick-up forever. I've been running the numbers looking at cost per year considering fuel cost, depreciation, maintenance and repairs, etc., and I am starting to wonder if running a gas pickup to work, 20k-30k miles per year, 12 mpg average, replace after 8 years, would be about the same cost as the car/pick-up combination. I got a 1995 dodge3500 with the 5.9 cummins 12 valve with 4.11 gears 5 speed. I get 14 mpg empty or pulling my mower trailer with about 3000 lbs weight on trailer. 17 mpg on highway if I keep it about 63 miles per hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.EVIL Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 11 hours ago, WESnIL said: I would seriously consider a Ram. My 2500 has the 5.7 with 6 speed automatic and 3.73 rears and it will haul anything I put behind it. At the top end that has been about 7K of tractor and implements on a 2,000 pound aluminum trailer. Under certain road, load, and wind conditions I will lock it down into 5th gear and you never see the speed vary. I had run three Ford's over 38 years and 518,000 miles, 22 yrs and 300,000 miles on my '96 F-250 with 7.3L PSD, priced a new F-150 but bought a new Ram 150, 5.7L Hemi and the 8-speed ZF transmission. Has the towing package, rated to tow as much as my F-250 was. Rides nice, comfortable, I've looked at Many Dodge vehicles over the years, Drove Dad's rusty '70 Plymouth Duster for a year, 198 cid slant-6 3-on-the-tree, had 100,000+ miles on it when I borrowed it. This new Ram puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I'm even getting used to the rotary knob to shift the transmission. It's gaining average mpg the more I drive it, was 15.2 when I got home from 400 mile road trip, now up to 15.4 in mostly rural and city driving. The new '19 Ram is very similar to my '18, I'd give it a look. My son traded his '14 Ram 2500 CTD MegaCab off 2 weeks ago, only 35,000 miles, It's at the Ford dealer in East Moline. I just checked, It's still there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, DOCTOR EVIL said: I had run three Ford's over 38 years and 518,000 miles, 22 yrs and 300,000 miles on my '96 F-250 with 7.3L PSD, priced a new F-150 but bought a new Ram 150, 5.7L Hemi and the 8-speed ZF transmission. Has the towing package, rated to tow as much as my F-250 was. Rides nice, comfortable, I've looked at Many Dodge vehicles over the years, Drove Dad's rusty '70 Plymouth Duster for a year, 198 cid slant-6 3-on-the-tree, had 100,000+ miles on it when I borrowed it. This new Ram puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I'm even getting used to the rotary knob to shift the transmission. It's gaining average mpg the more I drive it, was 15.2 when I got home from 400 mile road trip, now up to 15.4 in mostly rural and city driving. The new '19 Ram is very similar to my '18, I'd give it a look. My son traded his '14 Ram 2500 CTD MegaCab off 2 weeks ago, only 35,000 miles, It's at the Ford dealer in East Moline. I just checked, It's still there! no actual picture of it, but they want 41K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiller Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 12 hours ago, barnsfull said: That's the truth. I got so tired of not being able to reach past the open tailgate that I went this route. Flatbed farm truck is the handiest tool ever. I also have a 2004 2500hd with the 6 liter. Was never disappointed with the 6.0 till I drove the duramax. When the CP4.2 shits the bed you will wish you had a gas motor again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.EVIL Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, redneckchevy9 said: no actual picture of it, but they want 41K That's the one! Truck is really clean. Will probably need tires by winter. I'm actually surprised it's still there. 4 yr old diesel normally has 135,000 miles, not 35,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 14 hours ago, WESnIL said: I would seriously consider a Ram. My 2500 has the 5.7 with 6 speed automatic and 3.73 rears and it will haul anything I put behind it. At the top end that has been about 7K of tractor and implements on a 2,000 pound aluminum trailer. Under certain road, load, and wind conditions I will lock it down into 5th gear and you never see the speed vary. Reasonable ride quality when empty realizing that is/should be the norm if you want hauling/pulling capacity on the other end of that ride quality scale. Using it as an errand type truck it is easily capable of 16+ mpg. In talking with Chevy/GMC owners I doubt that the GM 6.0 will accomplish those numbers. Loaded fuel mileage can be in the single digits but it gets the job done. It appears that the Rams are a bit cheaper than Ford & Chevys/GMC. I am not a fan of the earlier 2000s looks wise, so I'm thinking it would have to be newer than 05 if I went Ram. Any issues with your Hemi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 15 hours ago, SMiller said: If you like your dads truck you could look for a clean low mileage truck like it, '07 was the last year, nice part is those trucks have rear HVAC vents vs the '07 1/2-current trucks with NO rear HVAC. I agree the '01-'07 HD trucks were the most comfortable trucks. I did not know that thanks for the heads up...don't want the kids getting all pissed off with no AC back there. Nice thing about the ride is that my wife already knows what a 3/4 ton rides like & seems fine with the way my dad's 06 rides (tad stiff of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Mule Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 They don’t make em like they used to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmallFan Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 22 hours ago, IHCPloughman said: I'm a little disappointed in my 2007 Dodge 3500 with the 5.9 Cummins right now. Has 182k on it, injectors have 50k on them and one is hanging open. If I replace all of the injectors it will probably be a $3000 job with me doing the work. I thought it was my dream pick-up when I bought it 6 years ago, but I have been less than impressed. 14 mpg empty, 9 mpg pulling 11,000 lbs behind me. I suppose the beauty in the diesel engine is I can, and have, pulled 26,000 (32k GCW) and got about the same mileage, 8-9 mpg. But, it takes the engine so long to warm up in the winter that I need to wear insulated boots and coveralls to be comfortable driving 25 miles into work. The cab just gets comfortable after 20 minutes but once I get off the interstate and hit the city street the engine temp starts dropping. Small trip through town, forget about warming up enough to defrost the windshield. So, between the so-so fuel economy, expensive injectors, and cold winter driving, I am looking at 3-5 year old gas pickups. I think a 6.4 hemi, 6.2 chevy, or 6.2 ford would do what I need to do. I am also questioning my vehicle strategy. I drive a car to work and put 20k miles on it per year. The pick-up gets 5k-10k miles on it per year. I was hoping to keep the pick-up forever. I've been running the numbers looking at cost per year considering fuel cost, depreciation, maintenance and repairs, etc., and I am starting to wonder if running a gas pickup to work, 20k-30k miles per year, 12 mpg average, replace after 8 years, would be about the same cost as the car/pick-up combination. Auto or Stick? As for not getting warm fast in the winter, on my 2006 5.9, I find that plugging it in when it gets to about 15 above sure helps get things warmed up faster. I don't have a problem keeping the truck warm on the way work (about 12 miles). I've got 161,000 on my my truck. Its had a bunch of stuff all pop up at once this year but its better than making payments for 5+ years. When it comes time to do injectors I'm going with these. https://shopfirepunk.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=121_130_230_245&product_id=76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP from Central PA Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 You couldn't give me a 6.0 as a gift, they are reliable, but make slightly only more power than a Briggs and Stratton........................Durajap isn't any higher on my list. I want a '03 2500HD GMC with an 8.1 and a manual ZF6HD 6 spd...............Built new now, I don't want nothing else. Dr Evil, what happened to the F-250? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsfull Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Missouri Mule said: They don’t make em like they used to.... That's a good load there. I only get two on my truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.EVIL Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, TP from Central PA said: Dr Evil, what happened to the F-250? SON traded his '14 CTD 2500 for a 2018 Mustang GT 5.0L and still needed a truck so I geve him my F-250. He spent all last weekend polishing it, looks better than new. His buddies all can't believe it has 302,000 miles and be 22 years old in a couple weeks. His Mustang is his Mid-life Crisis like my '88 Mustang GT was. I was 34 when I got mine, he's 35. Son runs the truck to work couple days a week, 7 miles each way. Lot different than the 60-70 miles each way I drove it. Now if I could just find somebody to take this 12 year old Volvo off my hands! Not hard to get repairs that cost more than the KBB value on it is. Put a new alternator in it last winter, cost exactly 1/3 of the KBB value. Think I'd have to scrap it if the clutch goes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHCPloughman Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 3:44 PM, FarmallFan said: Auto or Stick? As for not getting warm fast in the winter, on my 2006 5.9, I find that plugging it in when it gets to about 15 above sure helps get things warmed up faster. I don't have a problem keeping the truck warm on the way work (about 12 miles). I've got 161,000 on my my truck. Its had a bunch of stuff all pop up at once this year but its better than making payments for 5+ years. When it comes time to do injectors I'm going with these. https://shopfirepunk.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=121_130_230_245&product_id=76 Stick. Mega cab, dually. Fairly unique combination. I plug it in also. Doesn’t make a whole lot of difference. Oh, forgot to also complain about the steering. Every wear part has been replaced up front and it still drives like a drunk pig. More like navigating down the highway than driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 in doing a few quick searches over the week, looks like what I'm after is out there, just might have to drive a ways to find a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mader656 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Come on out no rust here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 My opinion, for whatever it's worth------ I have an '09 Silverado 1500 4 door with 5.3 and auto. I have towed a 606 utility with an IH loader half way across Iowa, with a 14,000 # trailer. A full sized Suburban from central Nebraska to NE South Dakota, a W6 to central Nebraska and back. Just saying, don't rule out the 5.3..., the 6.0 is nice, (I have an 01, 3/4 ton, with one), but the 5.3 will be way more fuel friendly, especially for a daily driver. One thing to be aware of...GM introduced "variable displacement" in '09, and had some issues until '12. The dealer got mine cured of drinking oil, but beware unless you know the seller REAL well. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, mikem said: My opinion, for whatever it's worth------ I have an '09 Silverado 1500 4 door with 5.3 and auto. I have towed a 606 utility with an IH loader half way across Iowa, with a 14,000 # trailer. A full sized Suburban from central Nebraska to NE South Dakota, a W6 to central Nebraska and back. Just saying, don't rule out the 5.3..., the 6.0 is nice, (I have an 01, 3/4 ton, with one), but the 5.3 will be way more fuel friendly, especially for a daily driver. One thing to be aware of...GM introduced "variable displacement" in '09, and had some issues until '12. The dealer got mine cured of drinking oil, but beware unless you know the seller REAL well. Mike Thanks for the input...that's why I put this post out there. I'm aware of the fuel friendly aspect, as I've drove a 6.0 for one week & did notice the difference in the drinking of gas instead of my 5.3. I may or may not have orginally mentioned, the main reason I want a 3/4 ton is just to be a bit different I guess. I have always had Chevy 1/2tons (88, 94, 95, & 2003). I don't plan on going any newer than 06 or 07 probably, I still think most are good looking trucks & my wallet only can open so far. I'm not a fan of the wheels, but I really like the GMCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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