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Did some deburring on the clutch  today ,nice out.

Found out the clutch plate are dished so you got to put them back in that way. I put a tie wrap around them but took it off , had to recheck them with a straight edge .

Also they needed to driven clutches need to peen to avoid non release . still working on that. A lot to these projects you don’t think of when you start off . 

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My Son helped me yesterday , get the motor back on the Fordson . It’s to much for me to wrangle it doing this engine by myself. ?

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Dennis,

Looking good! Now I hope your working towards the Summer show in July 17, 18 , 19 2020 at Sagertown PA! Ford is the feature tractor. Would like to have you bring your Fordson. 

Regards,

 Chris

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 Nothing else to do today cause it snowing ? , my son called ,we put the front end back under the tractor. Glad he was helping cause it way to much for me to wriggle it to line up pin . 
first we made sure the timing was right again ,was advised by Duane Helman to check timing before we put the cylinder front cover on. 
zero on gears line up to center on crank and camshaft , piston one is 3/4 inch down and exhaust open, which is the way it books out. 

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Dennis,

It is looking good! Major items accomplished.Thanks for posting these. The pictures will help someone with their project! I still owe you a picture of my Dad on the Fordson too. Will try to get a picture of a picture and post for you. Year would have been around 1924, getting close to 100 years. Wow.

As a reminder to all of us:  Pictures are of little to no value unless shared with others. If my grandmother had not taken a lot of pictures I would not have the back story on our family's lives before I was around.

Regards,

 Chris

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Dennis,

 Picture/s I promised you.

My Dad in around 1924 (he was born in 1920). Picture was taken by his mom, my grandmother on farm in Monroe Center Ohio on the Fordson. Notice that even the dirt looks old. And how old would the tractor be? It looks like its 50 years old! Been rode hard and put away wet many times! Top picture has less glare when I took it. 

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 Chris

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My family's first tractor was a Fordson and 2nd one was 1937 Case CC bought new. I own it now grandson of original owner....

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On 1/20/2020 at 8:42 PM, sugarmaker said:

Dennis,

 Picture/s I promised you.

My Dad in around 1924 (he was born in 1920). Picture was taken by his mom, my grandmother on farm in Monroe Center Ohio on the Fordson. Notice that even the dirt looks old. And how old would the tractor be? It looks like its 50 years old! Been rode hard and put away wet many times! Top picture has less glare when I took it. 

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 Chris

Nice , Monroe Center ️well what you know ️Great pictures thank you ? 

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On 1/20/2020 at 10:12 PM, Whats in the barn ? said:

My family's first tractor was a Fordson and 2nd one was 1937 Case CC bought new. I own it now grandson of original owner....

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Ole Casey ! Save room for me please I’ll park next to ya 

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4 minutes ago, 560Dennis said:

Nice , Monroe Center ️well what you know ️Great pictures thank you ? 

Tractor does not have fenders , I’m guessing less than 1924 . Has the Holley vaporizer 234 so in that early . Do you have a clue what happened to it ?

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One part of the project that I’ve procrastinated doing cause my comfort with torches brazing . I brazed once a year but lately I ve done it on the c governor. 
So this part a radiator side member was cracked when I took it apart. I used the lower tank as a fixture to align it. I was on very uncomfortable territory,cause I didn’t want to crack the tank . These Fordson parts are getting had to find and they are way over priced. 
But I’m happy with the results I I do say so. 
Going hand mill it from here to flatten it out for the paper gasket seal . 

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Dennis,

Your brazing work looks as good as any I have seen. Should finish up real nice!

I have no Idea what happened to the Fordson. Its long gone and so are the folks that knew anything about it.

I assume it may have been a early one maybe a 17 or 18? I may have another picture of it running a thresher. The grandparents moved up here from WV about 1915 ish.

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 Chris

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Working on the mounting the lower cast iron tank of radiator . I bought a new radiator core for it . Took it to Crawford radiator repair in Erie  pa . they have been business since 1929 I think, so if any one knows radiator around here it would be them . They told me my radiator was not repairable , so they work on finding a core, but they felt they could find one they would have to contact a shop make it . So fortunate the Fordson house  has them ,a special radiator shop in Chicago makes them up Special for  them . I told Crawford that that’s what I’ll do since they have done it before having jigs and fixtures , I was going to give me the best possible opportunity for success. 
Now the next issue is the attachment of the tank to the core ,48 1/4 28 bolts and studs have to clamp the gaskets top and bottom to make a hermetic seal. Not as easy as it seems . The straps are corroded ,they are not true to a straight edge and I was advise that the y will leak . 
so to make them is a chore cause they are not a standard size , aaugh ? 
 

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I have another issue with radiator assembly the over flow tube has a split in it just out of bas 1/4 pipe fitting. ,so I had to find a 1/2 od tube to replace the 29 inch seam tide the was in there. Went to the three hardware stores. I could not find what I was looking ,looked on the web. Nothing but a 3/8 tubing of copper is has 1/2 inch od. 
Call Jonuglin In Painesville and the guy said I refrigeration tubing that 1/2 od . Sell it by the foot . I BE RIGHT DOWN
it wonderful to have a have a real hardware store near by , I wasted a week on this off an on, got it . 
 

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Starting to assembly radiator ,as always running some issues with tolerance stack up . Making sure ,doing a dry run assembly to see if anywhere there anything out of alignment. No hoses in the cooling outlets so it got be right before sealants and core bolts (quantity 46 1/4 -28 ) on radiator core alone. So cooling system has Six  gasket locations  to be aligned and sealed to prevent leaks from head gasket to front cover lower tank. 
Trying be sure  ,this has got to be right, before I torque head and radiator outlets , need to make a .055 washer shim to take up air gap on lower tank . 

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Working on organizing the parts ,took the time to read the waxed paper ? Instructions wrapping to these wizard plugs I found in the barn . So I thought I show it to you , interesting piece of history if you can read it .Always liked the Wizard (Western Auto out of Kansas City ,had a store in Conneaut when I was a kid. Use to love to go in to look on Friday’s when dad got paid. We would shop for groceries at A&P, he would take Us to stores like Western Auto  ,W T Grants ,J  J Newberry's five and dime stores (?), was highlight of the week . Sometimes was lucky I would get a toy ??Or much needed caps for my cap gun
What stopped me first was the Gaps for those years and the Hudson ! Grandpa worked  for Hudson in Detroit. 

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Ordered some critical parts for the carburetor ,radiator and fan belt last week Tuesday from Fordson House ,haven’t seen them yet , so getting concerned about have to get them on the phone to ask for update on my order .

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Well! well don’t try this at home cause we are what you call un?professional. Myth busters , it takes two ,TWO people to do this , I would recommend that you don’t attempting it until you have two strong  people to do this especially the top cast iron tank , drop that , and play misty for me .
I’m back on the Fordson from the F350 dump Briefly . My son and I assembled the new radiator core to the original cast iron tanks. This is a mini stress riser location alignment. Trying not Make a mistake There are 46 , 1/4-28 bolts ,nuts ,and lock washers to secure the tanks core and gaskets. Permatex 2 both gaskets . 
The new core stick out from the four front corners ,which is a safety issue to me . These corner will cut me wide open if I forget that there so , got to trim them off . 
Not an easy task for us , but ! Huge relief that it almost finished . Now can get to carburetor and electrical . 
 

 

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Wow man and I thought my 1966 656 C291 had some challenges due to age and technology.  You have me beat hands down.  You look like your working in the Henry Ford Museum!?

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Today was my dad’s birthday. So how does this tie into this project?

My dad and my uncle Stanley bought the tractor in 1928. 
During the Forties ,I think the tractor through a connecting rod. 
During World War Two dad bought the Farm .

Dad was working a Warner and Swasey during the war . He met my mother there . 
Mom  must have left there after her first husband died and went to work TRW . 
Dad contacted her at TRW about a connecting rod for this tractor. I guess they were both single again , he must of asked out on a date as a favor helping him find the connecting rod. I don’t know . ?‍♂️

So this project of this tractor repair goes back seventy five more years ago. 
If it weren’t for this tractor I might not be writing this story in project today. Funny how things transpired. 
With God, family and friends I might get it running this summer , I hope so. 
I’m thinking this is one of the longest tractor repairs ever. 
I also think this is one the hardest task I ever taken on. Every nut and bolt has been a struggle, I kid you not and it will continue. These Fordson are rubics cube ,of a project there isn’t one that the same ,every one has been modified in one form or another to do all kinds of task. 
I f you ever think about taking on one of these you cannot do it alone and you will need a mentor( many)  to help you. 
I can’t stress the fact get help. 
 

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