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 Nice day and I wanted to get some painting done . Got the engine home from the machine shop ,took me two years , I told them to work on it when they had opening. Well that's not very often ,but I got home now and doing some painting . 

 

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Cleaned and primed outside and got a coat glyptal in the inside , that's it fo today feel real good about what I accomplished on a nice day in January! 

 

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Looks like she is going to be a beauty.

The majority of forties fifties and sixties Harley Davidson engine cases were painted red on the inside just like your doing.

We always said it was because the aluminum castings of that era were so bad the paint stopped them from leaking.

Is there some other reason for doing this?  

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Keeps any humidity/condensation from starting rust, Helps oil drain back to pan ,  and it looks cool :D

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A bit off topic, but back in the 50's and 60's the drag racers and nascar builders would grind the inside of the block smooth and then either polish it or paint it to get the oil to run back down into the crankcase faster. No need now with the aluminum blocks, but I know a guy that runs in the lower drag racing classes and he does it still. Any trick that works. Youngest son is building a balanced and blueprinted Ford 390 for his restored 63 station wagon and is planning on smoothing the inside of the block.

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Love-it a flat head with 4-bolt mains. Goes to show that there is nothing new under the sun.

Modern day Eaton/Fuller roadranger transmissions are painted on the inside of their cast iron cases.

Has to be an engineering reason because no one is ever going to see it except the techs who work on them.

Looks like the block was spray painted. What did you use?

RP people take on all projects!

Are the babbits repoured? 

Good luck!

 

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The paint has been around for a long time. MOST   GE Electric motors had it inside. The field frame. I've seen this in a lot of high end transmission gear boxes with this paint . I used it on my pulling tractor. , I used light oil 0 20 synethic . And in in transmission with the  hytran . 

Its has so many industrial uses I said why not in the slash Fordson oiler , I got so money in this motor ,why not !

https://www.eastwood.com/glyptal-red-enamel.html

 

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7 hours ago, oleman said:

 

Love-it a flat head with 4-bolt mains. Goes to show that there is nothing new under the sun.

Modern day Eaton/Fuller roadranger transmissions are painted on the inside of their cast iron cases.

Has to be an engineering reason because no one is ever going to see it except the techs who work on them.

Looks like the block was spray painted. What did you use?

RP people take on all projects!

Are the babbits repoured? 

Good luck!

 

Redid rods ,had to they were shot , we feel the mains are ok , they turn so smooth and precise ,I personally like Babbitt , I can feel the difference ,like an air bearing ,just floating crankshaft ,  touch it with my hand and it spins little effort , I know that reading books on Babbitt they did the most precise engine lathes spindles with Babbitt bearings ,they last with care an enturnity. 

the mains bolts and the flywheel bolts are safety wired !  That was factory in 1920 !

i used red oxide primer from rattle can On outside of block ,  

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18 hours ago, 560Dennis said:

Redid rods ,had to they were shot , we feel the mains are ok , they turn so smooth and precise ,I personally like Babbitt , I can feel the difference ,like an air bearing ,just floating crankshaft ,  touch it with my hand and it spins little effort , I know that reading books on Babbitt they did the most precise engine lathes spindles with Babbitt bearings ,they last with care an enturnity. 

the mains bolts and the flywheel bolts are safety wired !  That was factory in 1920 !

i used red oxide primer from rattle can On outside of block ,  

 

I find it amusing when a person born in the 70's or later attempts to explain to me about how bad engineering once was!

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My son actually noticed when I disassembled the engine the safety wired bolts on flywheel and on the mains . He thought that was a new thing. But they did it in 1920 

the flywheel has magnets that run the Dynamo and splash oil to lube the cam and lifters 

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This is the hot set up !  Custom made Wisco piston ,  about 60 percent weight reduction over cast iron pistons , 

4.08 bore X 5 inch stroke , 

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She going to be a ripper !!  Very nice !

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I was putting the crankshaft into block today ,  I have never used plastigage. I doesn't work to well in 30 degree temperatures ,but I feel the results will do till I get a warmer day to retest it. Anyway the crank turns pretty smooth . I had to stop , i got cold working outside ,it was sunny and I can see alot better in sun light .   

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this TACO Governor ,somehow ! that's  the rotor for the comuntator for the old coil  box ,why not make it a distributor ? And mount a coil to it.? Every Fordson is modified so take another couple of years to find and get working . I want to get it running and drive it. Just don't know the drive gear and governor gear is 1 to 1 not sure it will work! 

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You have the patience of JOBE!.

How about an electronic  distributerless ignition system?  I see the governor as an issue! Or adapt in newer generation Fordson system, probably the correct choice.

BUT would be the cats meow if you could get the original system back into operation.

Is there anything on a 9N Ford that could be adapted?

Good luckwith this project!

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Got some old coil boxes around ( mod T )  if you need em

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nice day ,little chilly but I anxious to get something done on the Fordson so I plastigage the  mains ,. I'm  excited that results of plastigage works so well on this engine. 

rear main has .010 shims both sides torque to 55 ft lbs. 

number 2 has .006 shims both sides 

and front number one has .005 shims both sides 

Next today after I baby sit the grand daughter ,should still have good  sun lite torque thw mains and try plastigage the Babbitt Rod bearings. 

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Done for the day ,all this plastigageing and I kick over quart of oil in the driveway not watching ,  got clean it  up. I'm tired , but pleased with the progress ❗️???

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32 minutes ago, BOBSIH856 said:

Are you going to re safety wire the main cap cap screws?

Yes!  I got some so why not 

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Fordson valve in head valve spring is long. I think this will work ! Been thinking for a week thinking about how to hold the spring so I can install keepers. Keeper are small and keep install tool they fall out of. Something like this I can get them on valve with assembly lube to hold them while I release the spring??❓

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