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D301 Diesels in '61-68 Light Line Trucks

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Hey all,
 
Putting the finishing touches on an article in Diesel World on this very elusive option. And, yes, it's for real... and makes IH the first to offer a diesel in a light truck. 
 
I found a lot of information on them at WHS, though it was mostly from the very beginning of the process. Because they made it a "Special Feature" rather than a regular production option, you won't see it listed in the normal places like a brochure or a Data Book. No doubt they put out some sort of an announcement to dealers but I haven't found a copy of it yet. The dealers knew how to order them, as evidenced by LSTs from all over the country.  The LSTs are pretty normal, but for the engine and a very few changes needed to the truck. There was a supplemental-style parts listing for the unusual parts needed, but really there weren't that many. Since they were putting the engine in the Loadstar, and had offered it in the B-160 and BC-160 in '60-61, and the engine was built around the BD Series architecture, it fit well under the hood of a C-Line truck.
 
I'm just putting out one last shout in case someone has one more little tidbit of information. I've harvested all the low hanging fruit, a a good deal of the upper tier stuff, but this is a pretty eclectic group and may have something more.  Below are some specific questions on rumors and unconfirmed information I'd like bunk or debunk:
 
-Supposedly, Scotts (the fertilizer people) ordered a big batch of these trucks at some point. Some of the rumors have this being up to 400 units .
 
- Part two of the above says the Scotts thing happened early in the D-Line era. That is remotely possible since the D301 was still available in the Loadstar in 1969, but that was the last year for it. Another related rumor has the D301 available in '69 Light Line trucks as it was the previous years.  While the automotive version of the engine was available in that year (it would be a combine/industrial engine from then on AFAIK), I don't know if it would fit in a D-Line body. The C-Line cab was built the fit the Diamond series engines, so it was an easy fit. Those engines were gone by the time the D-Line trucks came out  so it might not have been a good fit. I KNOW IH wouldn't do a low volume option like this unless it was easy-peasy.
 
-The earliest known D301 light trucks are 1964 but I have a nagging suspicion they might have come earlier and I'd like to confirm that (or not, as the facts decree). I know they experimented with installing this engine in B-Series Light Line trucks but the engine wasn't announced as an RPO for the medium duty line until April of 1960 and then was announced as being the base diesel option for the Loadstar late in 1961 ('62 MY). My theory is that the light line diesels could have appeared as early as 1962, but I am sticking with the confirmed by LSTs 1964 number until I know better.
 
-Thus far, I know that they were available in all the pickups. They are confirmed in 1100s and 1200s, long and short wheelbase, regular bed or Bonus Load, or Cab & Chassis. Also, one Travelette has been found. I'd like to know if it was possible to fit the engine in a Travelall?  Would there be any reason why an engine that fit in an 1100 or 1200 pickup wouldn't fit in a Travelall? If they would, then it's a least possible that in one of the known four years of production, somebody might have ordered a Travelall diesel (and wouldn't I like to be the lucky SOB that owns it! ( : < )
 
-I am collecting D301 engine numbers, any application from trucks to combines. Thus far, it looks like the serial numbers on the truck engines (all GVWs) are sequential, the highest being in the 8,000 range. I don't have any combine numbers, nor for the marine applications, industrial (loaders, etc) or stationary power plants. Because the automotive engines had significantly different calibration than an industrial engine, it seems logical that there were different series of this engine and maybe a new set of serial numbers. I'll know once I collect more numbers.
 
-Would like to hear about any other trucks. I have Pat Putnam's two, the one Brendan Barnes sold, Joe Yackley's, Charlie Horton's and Shawn Bailey's, plus a couple of others that were for sale on the web at some points in time.

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Jim Bob Holculm who lives near Springfield Oh. has the C-130 4wd that was used as the test mule and ended up being used as a yard mule for pulling "dead" new trucks off of the line.He put a 392 and Allison transmission in it when he got it. I believe it was a 62 model. It had the recessed grille and dual side by side headlights. He still works with Navistar in Springfield.  Eason

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Thanks Eason. Yeah, a '62 test mules fits into the theoretical timeline pretty well.

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The story is submitted. The tip to Bob was a good one and his truck appears to be some sort of a former test mule. The entire story is sketchy but it looks like it was built, sent to engineering and the diesel was installed. The LST bears some of this out indicating it was a "Sale to Works" deal. Apparently it was tested for some period of time then became a yard hack used to move dead trucks and parts around in Springfield. Did that for a couple of years and then was sold. Before the sale, the diesel was removed and sent back to Melrose Park and a Black Diamond was installed. Uncovered some D301 powered C-Line Travelalls as well. Anyway, this was a very interesting story to do.

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11 hours ago, 826BB said:

The story is submitted.

Jim, Any idea on publication date ?

And if you ever hear of a round body diesel T-all up for grabs , :D

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7 minutes ago, Kevingweq said:

Jim, Any idea on publication date ?

And if you ever hear of a round body diesel T-all up for grabs , :D

March 2018 Issue, which will come out towards the end of January

If I find a C-Line diesel T-All, I'm likely to keep it for myself! ( : < )

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Hi 826BB !

A few years ago I purchased a 1966 C 1300, 4x4, dual rear wheels, with a D301 diesel. It has 38,000 miles, but came out of central Ohio and is very rusty. It was fitted  with a camper at a speciality company and was originally sold as a camper. The old camper had been cut off, and so is a cab (without roof) and chassis now. It has 4:10 axles and 4 speed trans so with this 100 HP diesel and a 12 ft camper, I can only Imagine how underpowered it would have been to drive. It's no wonder it only has 38,000 miles! I only bought it to salvage the rare Diesel option, and am not sure what my plans are for it yet! It would be interesting to know how many Diesels were produced!

GMB32

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Hi-

Very interesting! The article I was working on when I posted this the first time is out now in the March 2018 issue of Diesel World magazine and will soon be on magazine racks. I am still compiling information so if you'd care to post or PM me the VIN and the engine number, you could help discover the proverbial "rest of the story" (do people remember Paul Harvey as fondly as I do). If I am able to collect enough information, I might get clues to fill in more of the blanks.

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Hi: 

I am out of state now, but when I get home I will call or write you the VIN and engine SN and send you some pictures of the way they installed the System. It was pretty neat, I will be home mid January.

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You don't think there's a chance this is original do you?  Less the turbo of course 

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4 minutes ago, sd186man said:

You don't think there's a chance this is original do you?  Less the turbo of course 

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Well, the engine wasn't being built when that truck was... but I think you knew that.

As to the turbo, there were some turbo versions of the D282 in crawlers and there was a "high altitude compensator kit" for tractors and other equipment with the D282, but there is no indication from the data I have seen (and I have probably seen more than most people)  that any of the light truck D301s rolled off the line turbochargers, nor medium duty trucks. The engine isn't all that robust, so a hard worked turbocharged D301 is at some risk. IH knew that so it was a smart move not offering them... especially in 18,000# GVW medium trucks (a grenade with the pin out and the spoon held by old scotch tape). They might have done well in a half-ton truck and one of the survivors I found was upgraded with a turbo some years ago and is reported to perform well. Driver just has to have a brain and watch the pyro. 

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No, I don't know my ih trucks very well, but ya it's obviously older than the engine. I don't have any info at all on it, but it is a very cool piece 

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The D301 first appeared in a small number of B-Line trucks for 1959. The engine in that old truck is likely an ag/commercial engine of some sort, possibly a D282T out of a crawler. Or maybe a combine engine. That whee they were used last, in combines into 1976. Where did you see that truck?

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Thanks much. Haven't been there but the truck looks familiar. Maybe I saw it at another show somewhere before I was looking for these engines. 

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