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Well done.  I am so glad you went with paint instead of patina.  I wondered if you were going to try to solve the cooling issue by mounting that extra radiator laying in from of the duals up beside the batteries, but anyone that would choose paint over patina wouldn't do something like that.  Sent you a pm as well. 

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Update - It’s been a long time since I added to the board here...sorry!

Not too many updates.  I took the truck on a 6hr round trip.  It’s pretty comfortable on the highway.  It runs pretty nice at 2000rpm at 65mph now.  It seems to be a nice spot for the DT466 to run at

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On 4/19/2020 at 1:19 AM, Sask466 said:

Update - It’s been a long time since I added to the board here...sorry!

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Fabulous job.

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6 hours ago, 7288cdn said:

Well done.  I am so glad you went with paint instead of patina.  I wondered if you were going to try to solve the cooling issue by mounting that extra radiator laying in from of the duals up beside the batteries, but anyone that would choose paint over patina wouldn't do something like that.  Sent you a pm as well. 

I moved the IH’s rad downwards about 6” to be able to fit under the hood of the Mercury.  The nose of the IH was much higher than the Mercury.  The fans on the truck 466’s also sit quite high, and would never clear the hood.   As a result, I went with electric fans, something I tried to avoid but have no choice.  I am using 2 Spal 16” fans - which are about the best fans I could find.  There are 5.9 Dodge Cummins electric fan kits, and people seem to say they work well as long as long they don’t pull too heavy.  I made a shroud for it, and built an expansion tank over the rad.  

 

 

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Awesome job, that turned out great. 👍👍👍

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that body style is just about my favorite of all the FoMoCo styles over the years. Great job underway!

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The Ford nuts call them "Slicks" now. Slick '60's, i guess. And they are slick!

 

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On 1/21/2018 at 4:40 PM, 560Dennis said:

How do you say Nice in Canadian? 

Nice, eh?   ?????

 

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Sask466, good to see another stubble jumper doing cool stuff! Next time I go to Regina I will try to look you up!

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R Pope, sorry I missed your reply!  I find myself in your neck of the woods (so to speak, haha) 2 or 3 times a year, next time I am up in your area I will send you a note!  
 

Maybe I will take the Lemsford Ferry and come see you!

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If you didn't know better you would think that was factory. Nice job

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Wow! Wow! Wow!

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Very nice.....IH meets FoMoCo.....both my favorites!!!!

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That looks outstanding!  
 

Maybe we covered this before but did that body style have the offset reversed hood scoop for air induction on the hood?  It’s been too long since I read my Ford truck book. Seems I recall the induction scoop being an option with the large gas V8’s?

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one of my favorite fords was the 1966. but i am curious why it has a 1965 grill? very nice!

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I can’t tell you that detail about the grill either.  I was told it was a 66 when I bought it, and then figured it was a 65 when I researched the grill.  I have found several parts (which appear to be original) with 1966 markings, for example the windshield motor has a painted stencil with 1966. 
 

I have heard that the medium duty stuff often to hangover parts from the F100/250/350’s, maybe that’s the case?  I also doubt the grill has even been replaced .

I haven’t ever seen a 1960’s F500/600/700 with that hood scoop, but the larger “super duty” F800 and up had that scoop in the 60’s.  I found my scoop off of a late 50’s tandem.  If you ever have a chance to grab one, do it.  That are worth a couple hundred in really good condition.  If I have my story straight, Pontiac actually used this scoop from FoMoCo on some of their early 60’s muscle/drag cars.  

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3 hours ago, Sask466 said:

I haven’t ever seen a 1960’s F500/600/700 with that hood scoop, but the larger “super duty” F800 and up had that scoop in the 60’s.  I found my scoop off of a late 50’s tandem.  If you ever have a chance to grab one, do it.  That are worth a couple hundred in really good condition.  If I have my story straight, Pontiac actually used this scoop from FoMoCo on some of their early 60’s muscle/drag cars.  

Correct on the scoops being used on Pontiac cars. I’ve got one, complete with the grille for it and mesh screen. I intended to put it on a 79 F250 I had but the project never happened. 

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Well I have had the truck out a bit now.  I have over 100miles on the new odometerIt is running quite well.  Starts good, idles clean, power is acceptable (I haven’t messed with the pump yet).

 

It does  seem to have a bit of shake/roughness (pretty subtle) from about 1200 to 1500rpm.  I think the exhaust note is a little uneven in that range too (again, quite subtle).  I seem to have a knack for noticing these types of things, and then fixating and driving myself crazy.


The balancer appears to be in good shape.  My gut feel (based on very, very limited diesel diagnosis skills) is injectors?  At idle to 1000ish rpm it’s quite smooth, and smooth as silk from 1600 to 2700.  It’s also seems to pull okay through that rough rpm range.  
 

I have an oil leak at the front of my injection pump, so I am planning on a bit of work on the fuel system this winter.  I also haven’t checked the valves yet.  My thought was the old IH truck ran good enough before I embarked on this project why mess with a bunch of stuff that isn’t broke.  The idea being get a good baseline/shakedown of the new truck prior to a bunch of “fine-tuning”.

Note the truck has ran very little in the past 10-12 years, so it’s probably a wonder it runs so well.  The entire fuel system up to the pump is now new, same on the return side.

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On 7/3/2020 at 4:53 AM, Sledgehammer said:

That looks outstanding!  
 

Maybe we covered this before but did that body style have the offset reversed hood scoop for air induction on the hood?  It’s been too long since I read my Ford truck book. Seems I recall the induction scoop being an option with the large gas V8’s?

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Been a while since i looked at my ford book also but was thinking the reverse scoop first appeared on some late 50s cabovers? Will have to dig out my book when i think of it....

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40 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said:

Been a while since i looked at my ford book also but was thinking the reverse scoop first appeared on some late 50s cabovers? Will have to dig out my book when i think of it....

From a Ford book. 1959 truck with the scoop as a scoop before they spun it around. 

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On 7/5/2020 at 12:10 AM, Sask466 said:

Well I have had the truck out a bit now.  I have over 100miles on the new odometerIt is running quite well.  Starts good, idles clean, power is acceptable (I haven’t messed with the pump yet).

 

It does  seem to have a bit of shake/roughness (pretty subtle) from about 1200 to 1500rpm.  I think the exhaust note is a little uneven in that range too (again, quite subtle).  I seem to have a knack for noticing these types of things, and then fixating and driving myself crazy.


The balancer appears to be in good shape.  My gut feel (based on very, very limited diesel diagnosis skills) is injectors?  At idle to 1000ish rpm it’s quite smooth, and smooth as silk from 1600 to 2700.  It’s also seems to pull okay through that rough rpm range.  
 

I have an oil leak at the front of my injection pump, so I am planning on a bit of work on the fuel system this winter.  I also haven’t checked the valves yet.  My thought was the old IH truck ran good enough before I embarked on this project why mess with a bunch of stuff that isn’t broke.  The idea being get a good baseline/shakedown of the new truck prior to a bunch of “fine-tuning”.

Note the truck has ran very little in the past 10-12 years, so it’s probably a wonder it runs so well.  The entire fuel system up to the pump is now new, same on the return side.

How's the dual electric fans doing, keeping the engine cool like you had hoped??

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I have had the truck in stop and go traffic on fairly hot days, and some short acceleration bursts.  I haven’t seen the temps go above 180 yet, but it really hasn’t seen big sustained loads yet.  The fans do come on and off intermittently when there is not much airflow (usually after you have been driving and let the truck idle to cool down) - so far so good!

The 4.89/6.50 gear set is proving too slow - driving around at 65mph @ 2500rpm proved to be quickly tiring.   I found a used 3.70/5.05 crown and pinion in Ohio and had it shipped up here.  This should put me at 2000rpm @ 65mph.  I am almost done the swap.   I can’t help but keep laughing at how big that differential is.  I put it up beside a 9” Ford I had kicking around for comparison. 

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I took the truck out yesterday with the new gear set.  I couldn’t be more happy with the change.  Everything feels so much more calm at highway speed doing 2000rpm vs 2500+ at 65mph.  The engine isn’t screaming, the driveline is turning slower, etc, etc.  5lo is basically what 5hi used to be with the old gears, so heavy towing shouldn’t be overly affected.  In those cases I would just stay in 5lo.  The 2speed axle is what makes this swap great - I don’t think these would be the right gears with a straight 5 or 6 speed.

 

I also found that on the gravel/pavement driving I plan to do, 2nd and 3rd gears are now more useful.  If this was a truck that spent time in the field that probably wouldn’t be the case.

 

 

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