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My brother in law runs a Claas chopper doing custom work. He's got the chopper, wagons and trucks, merger, but not a pack tractor. Either his customers pack their own, or he jobs it out to someone. But I know he lost a job because he couldn't get a pack tractor in a timely fashion, and nobody has a tractor actually heavy enough to get a true good pack (according to the extension office numbers at least). My cousin is trying to get rid of a 4586 that he bought on a whim. Would that be a good pack tractor? Or would the clutch wear out fast? What else would have a blade that would fit? I'd love to see a big chunk of concrete on the 3-point for extra weight, but it doesn't have a 3-point. Can they be easily bolted on? what would it cost to get one? Would that big V-8 do well with a job like that, or be a recipe for disaster? What about newer Steiger tractors? Say a 9170 or even STX? Will the reversers hold up? How heavy can you ballast them? If a guy was just packing, not any tillage, could you run fluid in the tires, cement on the 3-point, heavy blade, and more? I'm thinking 50,000 pounds would be a minimum to get effective pack. More would be better. Would a guy wear one out doing that work? Should you be scared of one already set up to pack?