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  1. 10 hours ago, TeachersPet1066 said:

    @560Dennis

    This reminds me…Linesville has been marked on my calendar for months.  Hope weather is ok.

    Thanks for sharing!


    sad I was going to bring the heritage Farmall C to be in it . I don’t know why it was canceled ?


     

     

    Linesville Tractor Parade

    December 3, 2022 | 6 PM | Linesville, PA 16424

    ATTENTION:  Sadly, due to unforeseen circumstances, we will not be holding our Lighted Tractor Parade 
     

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  2. Getting beat bad is good . 
    Can’t say much about gravel ,like pulling on ball bearings . But your competition is your teacher . 
    Did you use a psi balence hose on the tires to balence pressure? Make one and start there . I have found even in like tires mfg. the Douro meter of rubber is different. I found one good year right side is about 3/4 of a pound less than the left why I don’t know but .it helps to keep a log book so you don’t repeat mistakes . 
    what is the tire ply rating of your tires ? More plys the better. 
    id say the majority of successful Farmalls c in northwest pa. Run Firestone , more lugs more traction. 
    please show more pictures of your hitch. 
    What are your wheel set at narrow the better. 
    go to the recorders table and record the distances of your competitors. 
    get a good low pressure moroso tire gage. 
    I would find the center of gravity of the C . That way you can balence it to make a complete pull using sled pulling down force on rear axle. You have to keep the front end down to get maximum down force. 
    Get rid of clevis, put a d ring quick hitch bolted tight to drawbar. As close center of rear axle as rules allow. 
    Got any Oliver 60 or cockshutt s to compete against if not go find them , they seem to beat a c by 20 feet here. 
     

    I ll say this forget about the engine till you have traction worked out . Waste of time and money if you don’t know gription.

    pull at as many different track as you can and as many different competitions you can ,to learn how to make the c more competitive. 

     

     

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  3. Been awhile ! 
    I got the outer bearing off eBay , it’s a  fag or sk 6314 I think, thinks was 20 bucks free shipping 

    the Hoover roller bearing was ok ,if you need it . Going to be a lot if you need those  
    maybe Steiner for the oil seals and felt rings , 

    don’t recommend putting  any Chinese bearings in there . You can find new old stock bearings on eBay for way less 

    I cross referencing the ih bearing and I measured the inside diameter and outside diameter with calipers, and the width and plug that into bearing cross refer chart to find the bearing size , 

    that’s what I suggests , your choice 

  4. First Showing of our Fordson F at 53 Pioneer Steam and Gas Engine Society last weekend . Thanks to Sugarmaker who came sixty miles to get the Fordson and take it home. The Fordson made quite fine showing to the attendance despite the mud . Mary Ann Mook of the Meadville Tribune ask to take pictures and asked many questions about Fordy. Thought I would share the story . 
     

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  5. On 6/30/2021 at 1:16 AM, AngrySailor said:

    You’re absolutely right about no “stock” Fordsons existing. The manifold/mixer assembly on this tractor is a mash up of at least 3 different tractors and I think we can call that 4 if we count the throttle shaft and butterfly out of the green N... The tractor itself is chassis wise 1918, wheels and sheet metal are from a 1925 along with a few other miscellaneous parts.
     

     All my Holley parts are TOUGH shape... I’d have to dig to give you model numbers as I’m not as familiar with the Holley stuff, I’ve only worked on one better part of 20 years ago. I have A Holley here with the circular vapourizer plates but the manifold itself is nearly rotten away...
     

    My Uncles bought out an OLD Ford dealership over 30 years ago (parts wise) I’ve got crates of Fordson “scrap” and unfortunately most of it is (nearly) scrap. Any one need a 30gal barrel of used valves and springs??!!I have boxes of Holley mixers but they’re rusted bad, broken or otherwise not easily serviceable. I honestly don’t think I can put together another complete manifold/mixer from these parts without epic machining, stitching and brazing.  Manifolds and radiators is what’s going to make Fordson restoration out of reach of the home hobbiest soon unfortunately. 
     

    I’m also sure that working on yours for ten years was much more enjoyable than this project too. Not that we didn’t enjoy doing it, the owner is a friend who didn’t pressure us, but did ask for it done for display this summer. This was no problem thanks to our friend Trever who took care of all the sheet metal work. The man has the patience of a saint when I comes to tapping, banging and rubbing on sheet metal!  That said, she hit the dusty trail the other day after all our friends kids had prom pictures taken with the old stuff.  I’ve never seen so many well dressed people grace my home...

    I have an F we plan get running next, we call it “the patina job”. It’s rusty but pretty complete. Thinking about flipping the Kingston regenerator upside down and mounting a Schebler carb to it. The goal is to get it running nearly “as is”, no paint, only mechanical.  

    Here’s her final pics here for now, don’t have any of the prom pics yet though.  

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    I would have to see your Holley stuff cause it only thing I’m familiar with , I had to make the Holley 234 manifold 234 float bowl and 280 mixer work , thats all I have and it worked ,( it had to ,can t find so it’s going to stay that way , I’m only running gasoline and I’m think the tube of the vapors to mixer will get hot going up to mixer but the valve is always closed. Any how send me a private message we can go over what you have Holley to get you going if need arises.

    also the 234 float bowls are extremely rare, 

    the 234 manifolds are very easy to crack very thin I had to braze mine 

  6. you didn’t state what your going to use this 3 point kit for . 
    I ve had disappointed results ,your  not going to like this comment. But I feel you need to hear my findings. I cover a few of them here 

    good luck I hope this is a helpful


    We bought a kit that goes from the rock shaft with horizontal lift bars . They are weak bars I had to reinforce with rectangular stock. The will bend on down stroke  against any object like a tongue implements that are fixed ,or anything else on down stroke 
    Most importantly the vertical lift is very weak 400 lbs max. You must have a working temperature gage on the control ,lift heavy loads the hydraulic system will heat up very fast, to over 250 f ,you will need to keep it away from 300 or else burn use the touch control system , and you don’t want to be rebuilding that. This a big drawback don’t overlook your objectives in future projects this will be costly. 
    The frame of our unit prohibits the use of the flat belt pto pulley , if you have a 3 point equipment like a buzz saw that requires a flat belt , this is important your not going to use it. 
    The frame of out kit the pto lever interferes with lever ball lock engaging the locking it in it will not stay engage pto . the lever must be heated and bent to engage and also disengage. Your skill in fabrication of lever are critical to make pto work correctly. 
    The frame of our covers the pto oil entry plug port so you can’t get oil into the pto gear box with removal of the 3 point frame .make sure all seal and bearings are working and it’s full of oil before you install kit . 
    as far as the set and lifting of equipment the center adjustment leveling is difficult to use, such as using it with a post hole digger. Will not enter and exit a hole with out having to adjustment of center . Very frustrating , in fact a useless attachment combination . On down stroke the auger and horizontal lifting bar to rockshaft bend make it adjustment essentially useless. Rockshaft has no float to allow auger to proceed down. At its own pace . 
    I t makes it essential that you modify mine that the center support rotate center link with rockshaft. Witch it does not. And I would have to redesign it to do that and I have to abandon that equipment potentially. 
    So what is it good for ? For me the only thing is getting a implements tongue easy off the ground , saves the back  ,but that about it your still have climb down and put pin in. 
    I have never had good like with kits ,they always require re-engineering, machine shop ,welding, and trade off from original mfg. 

    I recommend you get a tractor with heavy duty 3 point really for equipment jobs you want to do, cause it’s going to be a very limited costly investment .

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  7. I had to follow up with a failure of the hydraulic lines under tool box. 
    The installation of the 3 point hitch,  a issue with a rusty hydraulic line under the tool box ( if you can call it a tool box).rats or mice built nest in there and corrosion resulting failure of line. I put bags of decon in the tool box ,but damage occurred any way. 
    here’s the results of the fix. 

    I had to take tool box ,deluxe seat out to get to lines. Removal of hydraulic blocks ( lack of space to work on the lines under dash. 
    The lines did come easy enough with two of us to wiggle out . 
    I looked up parts ( pipe , tube 374053R93 ) and went on line to many places and they wanted  under 1500 with shipping for them . With all our issues with the three point installation. I wasn’t happy with the the idea of adding on to the time and effort of that to an already labor filled project. But if you have to come up with a solution you got try and come up with something . 
    Dave gave my a place in Wisconsin that rebuilds them for 400 and send in old parts. If I could I would have sent it in to them . But I needed the tractor now . 
    so I thought using a hydraulic hose but no fittings looked right or available. 
    Went to hardware store they had half inch steel tubing but welded seam ,so I wasn’t comfortable that was safe. The o.d. Of pipe was 5/8 . I found the schedule 40 gas line had a 5/8 opening. The 5/8 hydraulic pipe just about fit inside. 
    Bought the 2 foot scheduled 40  pipe for 8 dollars and a 25 dollar 5/8 drill  drill to ream pipe .

    cut out bad section  used oxy/acetylene cutting torch to copy the bend and bent a twelve inch section to to slip over the pipe . And cleaned with wire bore brush , brazed it to seal it . Bought  new 11/16 x7/8x3/32 o-rings  used 9 oring . In between blocks to replace old flat ones . 

    took two of us to line up the four  bolts and assembled blocks very carefully not to drop out greased o rings ( I used lubriplate 105 sticky grease  to hold in block counter bores )put all back together works good. 
    I hope this helps you if your in fa fix , low budgeting repair solution. 
    Glad it happen early ,i guess the lord wanted it done right ,hate to see that transporter up in the air and that thing drop . 
    that’s  the story 
    Photos are reversed in order , not comfortable with inserts to describe what’s happening in each photo , plus not clear. I 

    hope this helps you


     


     

     


     

     

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  8. I’m so happy that you posted these journeys of Fordson restoration. It’s  very hard to find , and I’ve learn a lot from your post. I can’t help you to much cause my tractor has a 234 Holley float bowl  with a 280 mixer. Mis match but there isn’t a stock Fordson anywhere ,depression solve that .
    Suggestion tip .starter, I've found that if I use 10 ml syringe ,suck up about 3ml ,injection into the 280 mixer port and it will start on 3/4 turn pull ,what more can an old guy ask for. I do that cold and hot .note can’t use syringe more than a few times cause gas swells  plunger but it’s the best way to measure the amount. 

    many thanks to you ,Duane Helman,Fordson house, Keith Romeg ,my son Matt , others .

    I've worked on mine for ten years or more to get it to run ,so slow , I’m happy with my journey, don’t give up or quit I say to newer people ,This was not an easy project for me be patient.

     

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  9. On 6/21/2021 at 12:35 AM, AngrySailor said:

    It was on the to do list! And done! Not sure if you can see it in this pic but same idea as yours. (Still trying to figure out the thanks/like buttons and quote features here so hope I got that right...)
     

    So I’ve been running and tuning her all day Sunday. Had a leaky float, soldered that up and finally sealed it. She runs OK, I’d say not as well as my 25 with a Kingston M-D, and nowhere near as well as a Zenith set up like my 27... the engine has excellent compression, bores were clean with no ridge. Valve job done and clearances set 0.020”, guides are questionable but the owner didn’t plan to go this far at the time, looking back he/we should have done them but in reality this tractor isn’t  going to run much. 
     

    I find it’s very fussy on the mixture needle... more so than my M-D tractor. We tried a known good set of coils just to eliminate them, same, it runs the same on 12v battery or the flywheel mag also. To me it seems lean under load and rich at idle. If I had the dash mixture adjuster for it that would help. I find opening the needle a half turn when you want to drive and closing it half turn to sit and run helps a lot, just never had to do that on the other M-D... I’ll see what we can fabricate or get from Fordson house to solve that dash adjuster. 
     

    The tractor will be back in a couple months for the rad core exchange so I will have another chance to address any issues then.  The owner is pretty handy and my father is retired and local so even if I’m away working at sea he will have some tech support for the summer.  

    One other thing I noticed is this thing has a FAST 3rd gear! It’s basically useless it’s so fast and hard to pull away from a stop. I’ve never been so fast on a Fordson...

     

    parked her in the “yard art/parts/project” line up for the evening. Other than the 10-20 she’s the only runner in that pic. One of these days I have to empty the storage barn and get the other runners out to stretch their legs. On my phone, not sure why the pics are upside flip...  I think she’s heading to her rightful home tomorrow. 

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  10. We installed this 3 point kit from Steiner warehouse ,but bought from Kuhns in western New York for 560 Diesel. 
    Going to list what we found for your edification and amusement. Hope this advice will make the project easier for you . 
    Instructions explained 5 steps to installing to existing 560 draw bar support. 

    Adding following are the steps we addressed to make this kit function on the Farmall 560 as best I can describe that are needed to complete the installation on my Farmall 560 .

    1. We had to redrill all the 3/4 holes to mount it to get it to mount to axle. Holes were undersize. Used step drill from both sides at the barn .
    2. Found the jack shaft will crush the rear hydraulic fittings exit tool box when three point hydraulic cylinders extend. Called Steiner asked them about this , we agreed we could lower the frame . I removed the vertical supports and took to my sons shop to redrill new 3/4 inch holes to lower jack shaft to clear when extended. This lower the jack shaft 1 3/8 approximately. See vertical supports photos 

    3. The lower u shaped draw bar mounting 3/4 mounting hole was undersized .The hole was re-drilled but the draw bar wasn’t level , so when we had it at Matt’s shop we slotted it to 1 1/4 inch. Extra wide for what’s needed but can’t tell that when tractor is 40 miles from shop. 
    4. The pto engagement lever would not clear the right side vertical support to disengage the the pto . So a clearance slot had to be cut into that right side vertical support. See photos of lever interference. 
    5. The diagonal support rods supports the u shape drawbar to vertical supports had to be redrilled , new hole was added and I had to use oxy/acetylene torch to bend diagonal to clear motion of hydraulic cylinders . Note lower the draw bar put the draw bar down to about 12 inches. 
    6. Added top plates to the vertical supports. I slipped an fallen trying to try and get on tractor with muddy shoes these .vertical are an accident waiting to happen for an old guy like me. This a must do to have a decent support for your foot

    7 . So a thousand plus for kit , and my time Matt machine shop labor machining another 2000 , we got $3000 in conversation. 
    that beat buying another tractor 7000 cost avoidance. 
    8 . Relocating hydraulic hose to manifold on center ports for easy mounting the tractor , have to buy or pipe new lines. I have to had a time stepping on pto cover with hoses there. 
    9. I had to repair the rusted rear steel lines sprung a leak from rust moving the tool box to mount jack shaft sprung a leak but that’s another project 

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  11. Suggestion , I watched the video, if this tractor is for an old greezer. He or she can’t move fast enough to get to the choke rod , your video shows that. You would have started that tractor immediately if not sooner with a front choke rod ,the one to the dash is useless In my opinion . Up to you and your customers, of course , just a suggestion. 
    Including photos of mine for reference and amusement. 
    good luck 

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  12. Any body into 3 D printing ? Why ? I have a crack in the Fordson float bowl. I want to try JB weld first . But I’m bull headed and won’t give up . My son has a 3 D printer now , so I wasn’t wondering if there is any one that has done something like that  

    Note : I have not seen the crack yet ,just got a call ☎️ from My son and I’m not to good at the extent , just I have to see it ?

    Pretty disgusted with myself , taking out my anger on beating the dents out of the fenders . All stop and think ? 

    you don’t find one of these on eBay if you do you pay eBay prices and get the same thing  hundred year old part is pretty hard to find let alone description 

  13. Brother Bob’s got bacteria pneumonia not COVID, treating with antibiotics and steroids, I don’t think he in hospital ? 

    update ,still need prayers pneumonia isn’t nothing to dismiss 

  14. Sometimes out necessities I find the simple tools work the best in body work . Such as a split 2x4 and a C clamp is taking out some large bends in this Fordson fender ! ??‍♂️, Just amazed as to the versatility and amount work it will do if placed in the right spot . 
    Thought this was an excellent example , no heat just pure leverage. 

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  15. 13 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

    A person working there while you were there should not require you to quarantine unless you were in close contact with that person specifically. Never hurts to be careful but I personally wouldn’t hurry to quarantine myself unless I was in direct contact with that person for some amount of time. Good luck to you. 

    They won’t say who , so they won’t by some law I guess  ?‍♂️?just give the days the staffer was working , ?I’m im contact and property warned 

  16. If it isn’t bad with brother Robert ,I got an email from Madison ymca that one of the staff tested plosives. I was there on the days the individual was there. So the wife and and decided we had to quarantine, to two weeks. 
    I got to call the food bank I work with on Tuesday I won’t be there for a while and why. 
    l got to cancel the blood drive also. 
    ?

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  17. Please pray for my older brother Robert in Phoenix, I couldn’t talk to him yesterday ,he’s was coughing, could not speak to me it was to hard. 
    im sure , but I think  know what it is. Ex ray confirmed , They going in yesterday evening for treatment ,. So up to the doctors nurse now. 
    thank you ? 

    what else can I say we need your prayers 

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  18. Brought heavy stream cylinder gear oil into the house to warm up in the Landry room .So heavy it’s like watching grease flow .?‍♂️ They used this heavy oil in stream engine cylinders, and gear boxes , worm gear drive which the Fordson is. 
    If I left it in the cold shed , it would barely flow out into the gear box. 

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