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  1. Your best bet is a hydraulic shop. You'll need to take the piston and gland with you so they can match up parts for you.
  2. What manifold does he think will work to put the turbo on a tractor without having it stick out the side? I agree on the space issue. The 856-1456 hood is taller so there's room for a turbo. It's pretty tight under the 756 hood.
  3. Don't know the exact differences myself. Just been told "they're different internally." Never really had the incentive to look into it. We didn't use the turbo from the truck motor. Reason being, they never put a DT360 in a tractor so there is no turbo manifold. You'd have to make up something custom or have the turbo hanging out the side of the tractor like some half-arsed Cummins conversion. Runs fine with the inline pump and no turbo. Does it fit under the tank? Yes. I don't recall having to do anything special with the tank except that we lost the fuel level sender because the mechanic that put it in needed the hole for the fuel return.
  4. It will work, it just needs to be machined to fit inside the 56 series frame rails, and it will still cut you down to 1 bolt per side up front. As long as it's an early 886 of course... Later ones had the D358, which you already have a front cover for.
  5. Debatable. That forum, while "correct" for this machine, isn't as well-traveled. We'd really need a survey of folks on this site who frequent ONLY the Construction forum. My feeling is that it's not many. The lion's share of activity, and eyes, are on this forum. The thread's already here. I would lobby that we roll with it as-is. A moderator could move the thread, as starting a second one for the same question(s) is poor forum etiquette, and often against the rules of a forum site (not sure about this one, don't want to take the time to look it up, LOL). You would lose most of the folks following the thread that way though.
  6. Viscosity owned the formula, CaseIH owned the name. So if you are looking for the Viscosity product, it's called "Viscosity Ultraction." Though old-timer IH guys will insist on calling it Hy-tran. A 560 would have had the ORIGINAL Hy-Tran in it when new. Original Hy-Tran is a far cry from what Ultraction is today. Ultraction is formulated for the latest CVT/IVT, Powershift and Hydrostatic transmissions. The 560 is a boring old gear drive tractor with a gear hydraulic pump, a dry-clutch "powershift" (TA), and no real need for the fancy modern additives. Frankly it doesn't need "modern" Hy-Tran. Any Hy-tran compatible product is perfectly suitable unless you plan on sharing implements with a modern tractor that needs premium Hy-Tran. Is cheap "compatible" oil appropriate for ALL IH tractors? No, but it's fine in a 560. Just make sure it says "CaseIH Hy-Tran" or "MS-1209" on the bucket you buy.
  7. "Doesn't pull the motor down much." - The hydraulic system on these tractors are the same from the 766 through the 1586, at least pre-PFC. What pulls down an 80HP tractor won't pull down a 160HP tractor near as much. I would not worry about it until it proves to be a problem or at the very least, you get some gauges on it (which is the same thing, I guess?). On the 3pt, if you want it moving now, heat. If you want it (maybe) moving a year from now, spray and pray.
  8. The bus/truck 360 is different from the tractor 360 internally. Different bore and stroke or something like that. My 756 has a truck 360 in it (I have laid claim, if I get nothing else out of the estate I am getting THAT tractor). We went for functional, not correct, so a lot of compromises were made in installing the engine. Kept the inline pump. Used the gas frame rails. Used the gas radiator even though the outlet was on the wrong side. Your 310 frame rails are already the 1.5" shorter that they need to be, which is good. Your 310 radiator will have the outlet on the correct side, which is good. Your hood might actually fit. Dad had to make bolt-on extensions for this one. Front cover and rear plate are the same as 400 series so you've got good parts availability for that. You can try and find a D312 front cover but they're even rarer than a good D310 crank that isn't in an engine somewhere. The 400 series front cover will need to have its ears machined down to fit the 56 series frame rails, and you will be reduced to one bolt on each side in front. You will have 7/8" cheeks sticking out on each side of the bell housing from the 400 series rear adapter plate, unless you have those machined off. As far as internal parts, no idea if Navistar still supports these engines. Boy, I'm getting good at breaking down that D360 conversion... Seems like I've been doing it a lot lately
  9. I've seen them on occasion. It's an interesting idea, but notice they don't do it in this day and age.
  10. The only vestiges of IH's Construction Division left are the DRESSTA bulldozers, and even then I'm not sure how many parts, if any, on these machines can trace their lineage back to the IH days. IH sold the construction division to Dresser in the early 1980s. Dresser only wanted the bulldozers. Everything else was dropped virtually before the ink dried on the paperwork. Once the parts supplies ran out, too bad so sad. Eventually it ended up being owned by Komatsu, and more recently was spun off as DRESSTA. @Under_Pressure has the right idea about keeping a machine like this going. Takes some creativity, knowing who made the original components, and sometimes a bit of expert fabrication. If this backhoe has the same kind of swing motor arrangement as other IH backhoes that will be your biggest challenge to fix. I might be looking for a way to convert it to a swing cylinder arrangement, and get rid of the motor.
  11. That's an indication that they're not making money on those orders that are just the bare minimum to qualify for free shipping. When it starts costing them too much they raise the limit.
  12. Places like Target and Amazon don't have one central warehouse for everything. What you bought is likely coming from two different locations, and two separate shipments direct to you is quicker and less expensive than putting the first item in the box, shipping it across the country to the warehouse with the second item, putting the second item in the box, and shipping it on to you. Where they make it up is on all the orders that can be shipped in one shipment. Of course they beat up their suppliers and shippers for the best price so this isn't costing them much if anything. Wouldn't you? That's just good business. Of course the free shipping offer is to entice you to buy something else. That's just good business.
  13. They are cutting corners trying to keep up with demand. If folks would stop "stocking up" in anticipation of a "shortage" there wouldn't be a "shortage." As it is folks buy up every tire the moment they become available whether they need them or not, because "shortage." Unfortunately if you don't buy them the next guy will, and they won't be there when you need them. Dog eat dog, a sad state of affairs.
  14. True, but that only adds about 6 more tractors to the pool. All this advice is dated, though. We have to keep forcing ourselves to remember it's not 1985 anymore. How many 715 diesel combines are left out there to harvest engines from, for example? They're all gone around here. We have to be getting to the point where people have to start shaking their heads and saying "What a shame," when the few that are left get knocked in the head for an engine. Folks want to make parting out a tractor a capital offense, but nobody cares about the other machinery. Think about all that history that's going to be lost... Don't be an anticombineite! Don't be machinist against combines!
  15. You're looking at a certain level of "unobtainium" no matter which option you choose. None of these engines are getting any newer, all are long out of production, and that date has been getting farther and farther away as time goes on. As time goes on fewer and fewer of them are in use, so the incentive to keep parts support is waning. The 312 is only found in 666's and some early 686's. The tractor 360 is only found in 766's and early 886's, though there are more of these out there than 666's. Truck/Bus 360's are a hit and miss thing. Some areas they're difficult to find, in other areas they're impossible to find. You also have to contend with the truck/bus 360 being different internally from the tractor engines. Cummins has its own set of challenges. You're fighting with all the Billy Big Riggers over the engines so it's going to cost more. Fitting the engine is all custom parts which you can get, but you're not paying "junk tractor" price for the parts. In my opinion, there's no real clear cut answer. Probably the way I'd approach it would be to price out overhauling the D310 best case scenario the pump doesn't need what you can't get. Then you have a baseline to work from. Another option to consider is a 400 series engine. With enough work they can be fit between the factory frame rails as I understand it.
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