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  1. 12 hours ago, M turbo said:

    Would you be interested in hooking that 606 up to my #82 pull type next summer in Ridgetown to harvest some wheat? I going to pull a picker with probably an H, maybe the M..have lots of time to figure that out. I don't think your too far away and might want to play. 

    What direction from Bothwell are you? I thought Bothwell was all Green Weenie country from what my in laws say. They are south east of Bothwell. Just curious.

  2. I would agree Big Bud Guy, that the 7720 and 8820 were great conventional combines. My brother in laws have had both and they gave excellent service. Excellent machines. In this area the 9600, 9610 and 9650W combines worked well also. But once they hit the axial flow versions it has gone to h*** in a hand basket. The older ones like the 9650 run dirt cheap at auction and the 9660 and 9770 are being traded off to some degree on other makes. But they hit rock bottom with the new S series. My Deere friend tells me they have been one problem after another and are getting difficult to trade off on other makes due to their reputation. As an example, a brand new this year S680 a few miles from me had a failed header drive gearbox in wheat this past summer. It will be interesting to see if it stays or goes at the end of the season. And they still have the grinding problem in corn over 20% moisture.           

  3. Capacity only. If the no 80 was equipped with a Scour Kleen there would be no difference in quality of cereals such as wheat oats, barley, etc. Of course the no 80 could not do corn.

  4. 5 hours ago, Loadstar said:

    Gary that magazine cover you posted is a real work of art. I've heard of weighers on the old threshers but not much of cleaners. My dad had the "roto cleaner" option on his Case pull type model A combine. It was mounted over the grain tank with a separate down spout to funnel the weed seeds and cracked grain out. There was a small platform for bags but what a job it would have been keeping that working by yourself. I don't recall him using it . I could not find an ad for the model A but this newer 1960 Case model 80 is similar and has the roto cleaner. 


    60 Case PT combine.jpg

    Called a Scour Kleen where I grew up. Excellent piece of equipment.

  5. I knew the Wisconsin engine was available for the 91 combine right from the beginning. It was listed in the sales brochures. However, I have never seen a 91 with the Wisconsin engine. And I probably have seen close to 50 of them in my lifetime. Maybe too many of us remembered the old NH Super 77 baler and the hassle in restarting it when it got hot and stalled out. You just had to let them cool down before trying to restart it.  

  6. If you look at the changes made from the 1480 combine through to the present 6140 combine it will give you some idea of what has happened with yields. Changes like much larger clean grain elevators (at least twice as big), sieves that are about a foot longer, AFX rotors with auger fronts, longer discharge augers, and engines with at least 50 percent more HP. Yet the separator width is the same. I know I found this out the hard way a few years ago with my 1660 in 200 bu corn. The bottom sieve is just not large enough so I had to open it up wide open. 

  7. The McCormick and Deering knotters were totally different. My grandfather sold Deering binders and Mom told me he said the Deering knotter was much better than the McCormick knotter. However the McCormicks prevailed in IH and the McCormick style was adopted. Others such as New Holland used the Deering design and it always tied much better than the IH balers. We had a IH 46  and we also used our neighbor's New Holland model 68. There was no doubt about it in that the New Holland 68 was a much better tying baler than the IH 46. While the 46 performance was acceptable the 68 knotter performance was superb.    

  8. Believe it or not I owned a 1086 with only the ROPS back in 1978  for about 9 months. It was mistakenly ordered by the dealer (Gowland) and I bought it. However, I hated the cursed gear shift levers on the left that if you weren't careful getting on you would trip over. I traded it the next spring and the next owner bought a brand new cab from IH and had it mounted. As far as I know the safety frame was scrapped.  

  9. Concerning the Shell fuel truck on tracks, I think you have the location wrong. The location as I can read it appears to be Mont Joli which is in eastern Quebec and this is a snowy area in winter being near the Gulf of St Lawrence. The last name of the owner appears to help also. Landry is a common French Canadian name. 

  10. Unfortunately the model 45 baler didn't tie well and there were lots of broken bales. In my area they were usually traded off on NH model 66 and later 68 balers. The 46 baler if the knotters were adjusted well usually tied acceptably. We had a 46 and were reasonably happy with it.

  11. The reason the boxes weren't sold in Canada was explained to my father at the time we bought our #52 wagon in 1955. They were able to get the wagon in duty free if they locally mounted the made in Canada Firestone Champion tires. Since there were several box builders in Canada at the time there was a large duty on the Knapheide boxes that made them cost prohibitive. If I remember right there was at least one box builder in both Ontario and Quebec and you had to buy their boxes to avoid duty. However, Dad wanted his for a hay rack so the box was a moot point. I have seen a considerable number of #52's in Ontario and Quebec but never one with a box on it other than one that had an old Turnco 150 bushel box that was obviously made much later (like in the mid 1960's). The standard set up was with a hay rack.  Of course by the 1970's the duty was abolished with the free trade act. 

  12. Funny since it was a regional thing. I have seen 5542's in western Canada but have never seen one in the east. The 8600 and 8800 combines were popular here and followed by the 8700 and 8900 series. There was also a small 7300 that was popular also. 

  13. There are still quite a few around in these parts. My neighbor has an old 3388 that is in real good shape. He has the right attitude about it. He considers it to be a 1086 MFD and nothing more. That is why he has good luck with it.

  14. There were a whole bunch of 2470 Case tractors close to me. The Case dealer back then really promoted them. They are all gone now except for 1 or 2 of them that I saw in the field this spring.

  15. I don't recall posting much Allis Chalmers stuff so here is a D19 ad from 1962. Interesting to see that AC had the first wheel tractor with a turbo charged engine.

    Interesting. The IH 4300 came out in the late 1961 to early 1962 period. It also had a turbocharged DT817.

  16. Funny how the 80 through 830 used some of the biggest bore/stroke specs JD ever put into an engine but yet carried one of the smallest engines ever made by JD in the pony motor. My top 3 wheat land tractors from that era would be the Oliver 99 series with the Jimmies because of their hot rod horsepower, the JD 2 bangers for their torque, lugging, fuel economy, and the Case 500 through 900s because of their tough smooth running direct start diesels, and stout drivetrain.

    I'd better not leave out the big Massey Harris 55. It was rated as a 4-5 plow tractor so I'm guessing around the 60 belt horsepower mark. Valve rotators were a selling point in this 1953 ad. Fuel economy of 1 3/4 gallons of diesel fuel per hour was pretty good too.

    There was a reason for Massey pushing valve rotators in 1953. Our neighbors had a 1951 model 44 and on hot days when thrashing back in the mid 1950's the valves would start to stick and pass. The neighbor owned the tractor and mill but in the 1956 summer the rest of the threshing gang got upset at having to stop and let the Massey cool. Then they then put my uncle's W6 on the mill. It was a hot day around 90 F and the old W6 just purred all afternoon and the next day without a whimper. I guess that was one of the events that to a young boy said everything about Massey Harris. Two years later the threshing gang was gone and we bought a used 1950 model 62 combine and Model 8 windrower and never looked back.

  17. I snuck this into my thread too, Ralph, but I thought it should also be here. I've not had many ads. Gary ;)

    attachicon.gifOliver 70 tractor for $727 ad.jpg

    The 70 could have owned the market if either JD or IH had it in their lineup.


    If you look at the early Farmall H (F15) and M (F22) prototypes they looked a lot like these Olivers. In fact many of the same people did the design work as at Oliver. The two design offices were just cross town from each other and engineering employees there went wherever the work was. The Oliver designs were done first and then a bunch of them migrated to IH and did work on the F15 and F22. However IH management found the projected manufacturing costs too expensive and they hired Raymond Loewy (of Studebaker fame) to cheapen up the sheet metal on the tractors from a tractor that looked very similar to the Oliver to what the H and M looked like in production form.

  18. CO-OP Federee sold a few of them in Quebec back in the mid 1950's and like Big Bud Guy said they were a beast. I saw the Super 99 at the farm show in Montreal back in around 1956. Dad would take me to the show and that was something I looked forward to each year as a pre teen. Later they had the 950, 990 and 995 Lugmatic models at the show around 1959. Nothing else could touch them for power at that time.

    Did they have Co-op paint or decals? I've never heard of Co-op or CCIL selling Olivers here in the West.

    The smaller version of the Super 99 was the Super 88. They had a diesel engine option too but just the six cylinder Oliver engine. Not that screaming Detroit. At 50 drawbar horsepower they were right in the most popular size range for this part of the country at the time.


    CO-Op Federee kept their name off all of the Oliver and later White tractors in Quebec. For the French sales literature they had their name on the back but on the English literature they didn't. I still have some of the Oliver literature from that period somewhere in my collection.

  19. CO-OP Federee sold a few of them in Quebec back in the mid 1950's and like Big Bud Guy said they were a beast. I saw the Super 99 at the farm show in Montreal back in around 1956. Dad would take me to the show and that was something I looked forward to each year as a pre teen. Later they had the 950, 990 and 995 Lugmatic models at the show around 1959. Nothing else could touch them for power at that time.

  20. Welcome to the forum Carl. I see you have the model 52 wagon and barge box doing their thing also. You need to post some pictures of your "Farmall 606" also. Speaking of Farmall 404's did you see the photos of the one that Brian Farm supply at Puslinch has for over $10,000. It came from just south of Exeter and was bought new there. The owner offered it to me last year for $7000 CAN but I passed it by as being too much money. However it looks like someone felt it was worth more than I thought it was. It has only 2145 hours on it and is a wide front with power steering.

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