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Oh man would I love to have that tractor

That wasn't a powershift, just the redesigned cab.

Was this on AgTalk a couple of days ago?

If you work on the farm much: Trash cans are always full and grease gun are always empty.

"it will feel better when it quits hurting"

I can see that but they are putting it in the barn loose.

So why loose, not baled?

Do how do you stay busy down there? lol

This is the biggest machinest vice Wilton offers, last year they were discounted $1100 so we bought one at work, it's a beast.

I ponied up the money for a new Wilton last year, wow what a great tool, holds tight and stays tight, amazing what I've been missing all these years!

I like this thread!

Okay, thought I was going to learn something new, thanks

Can you explain what you mean by this as the 86s were in a cab and a different setup?

Do you have pics of the rest of the tractors to share?

I came across this over on the Combine Forum, a downloadable digital copy of the the complete shop service manual for the 2100 and 2300 combines, over 2800 pages long. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iGOzMiElunTmlIVTlWbjBDUGM/view

If you figure it out can you post back here for the rest of us?

Just remembered to post pics of my new to me machine, was a soybean eating monster!

I believe the 5088 and up are now referred to as the "Midrange" combines, but certainly are descendants of the "Heritage" machines. One big change is the heads no longer interchange between the two generations.

This is simply combining a couple of documents and the notes I've taken into one comprehensive document, hopefully everything is accurate. I finally pulled the trigger on a beautiful 2005, 2388 myself, this information helped me make the decision!

Wow, grew up at 18 mile and the county line, so 9 miles directly East of your lake house, get ahold of me next time your up, would love to meet you and show you around.

Please explain to me what a rice combine entails?

I put this together, let me know if anything is wrong or especially if you have something to add!! Axial-Flow “Heritage” Combine Timeline 1977- Introduction of the first 300 Axial-Flow Combines; · 1440: 135-Hp 436 Cid, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, 4750 sq. in. Sieve Area, 24” Rotor · 1460: 170-Hp 436 Cid, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, 4750 sq. in. Sieve Area, 24” Rotor · PIN Numbers o 1440: PIN start U001177 o 1460: PIN start U001177 1978- Introduction of 1480 Axial-Flow Combine · 1480: 190-Hp 436 Cid, 208 Bu. Grain Tank, 6420 sq. in. Sieve Area, 30” Rotor · 820 flex head introduced – 13′ to 22.5′ · PIN Numbers o 1440: PIN start U001501 o 1460: PIN start U001501 o 1480: PIN start U001178 1979- · Engine updated to “B” series · Water separator fuel filter changed from canister filter to spin-on filter · One-piece hydro pump drive pulley changed to two-piece pulley with replaceable hub · Discharge beater changed from 4-blade to 3-blade design · Niehoff “brushless-style” alternator released · PIN Numbers o 1440: PIN start U005501 o 1460: PIN start U005501 o 1480: PIN start U005501 1980- Introduction of 1470 Hillside Axial-Flow Combine · 1470: 210-Hp 466Cid, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” Rotor · Keystock grates introduced · Electric fan speed adjustment 27/28 gears now used on 1440 grain & corn combines · Oscillating guide axle shield standard on rice & corn machines · Friction disc slip clutch replaces ratchet clutch · New rotor with new cone rear bulkhead · PIN Numbers o 1440: PIN start U010001 o 1460: PIN start U012001 o 1470: PIN start U001180 (Hillside) o 1480: PIN start U014001 1981- Introduction of 1420 Axial-Flow Combine · 1420: 112 Hp 358 Cid, 125 Bu. Grain Tank, 20” Rotor · Introduction of Electro-hydraulics · 1480 engine and Hp change: 1480 210 Hp 466 Cid. 208 Bu. Grain Tank · PTO clutch changed from 7 plates to 9 plates (1480) · Three-bladed discharge beater · Straw chopper both factory and field codes (April 1981) · Two Speed Hydrostatic Drive Motor 1480 · Power guide wheel drives for all models as factory installed option (January 1981 · Grain Loss Monitor as field attachment only · Introduction of 900 Series Corn Heads · PIN Numbers o 1420: PIN start U001180 o 1440: PIN start U020001 o 1460: PIN start U022001 o 1470: PIN start U005501 (Hillside) o 1480: PIN start U024001 1982- · 1420 Hp increase 1420: 124 Hp 358 Cid. 125 Bu. Grain Tank · Electric fan speed adjustment offered on 1420 · Power-guide rear axle available on 1420 · Brake disc diameter changed from 7″ to 8″ on 1460/1480 · Additional brake disc (2 disc to 3 disc) on 1420/1440 · Hydraulic control valve improvements · Automatic feeder cutoff available · Auto reel-to-ground speed attachment available · Fishburn lock added to 1460/1480 transmission · Clean grain auger shaft increased to 1-1/4″ on 1440/1460/1480 · Rock trap introduced on 1440/1460/1480 · PIN Numbers o 1420: PIN start U005501 o 1440: PIN start U030001 o 1460: PIN start U032001 o 1470: PIN start U010001 (Hillside) o 1480: PIN start U034001 1983- · New elevator jackshaft on 1440/1460/1480 · Cessna header lift pump replaced Webster · 4-blade discharge beater changed to 3-blade beater · Final drive shafts changed from 3-bolt to 1-bolt design on 1480 · Inline pressure filter between hydraulic pump and header valve · Bosch injection pump replaced rotary type on 1480 · PIN Numbers o 1420: PIN start U010001 o 1440: PIN start U040001 o 1460: PIN start U042001 o 1470: PIN start U012001 (Hillside) o 1480: PIN start U044001 1984- Introduction of Specialty Rotor · Danfoss steering hand pumps replace TRW pumps · Cone changed from low carbon steel to medium carbon steel (1040) · Grain gears now standard on all corn combines · 2-speed hydro available on 1460 · Improved steering axle: new rims, spindles, and hubs · Rear-wheel assist engagement revised · PIN Numbers o 1420: PIN start U020001 o 1440: PIN start U050001 o 1460: PIN start U052001 o 1470: PIN start U020001 (Hillside) o 1480: PIN start U054001 1985- · Mufflers eliminated on 1460/1480 · One-piece forged final drive axle assembly · Feeder bottom, door, and hinge changed to 1040 steel · Rock trap beater changed from 4-blade design to 3-blade, key stock welded on LH end, and beater blades thicker · Rotor kickers standard · 3rd lift cylinder available on 1440 · PIN Numbers o 1420: PIN start U030001 o 1440: PIN start U060001 o 1460: PIN start U062001 o 1480: PIN start U064001 1986- Introduction of 1600 Series Axial-Flow Combines · 1620: 124-Hp 358 Cid, 125 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 1640: 150-Hp 466 Cid, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 1660: 180-Hp 466 Cid, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 1680: 225-Hp 466 Cid, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” rotor · Capacity increased by 70% on 1640 and 1660, 25% on 1680 · Concave area increased by 15.5% on 1640 and 1660, 16% on 1680 · Separating area increased by 24% on 1620, 32% on 1640 and 1660, 41% on 1680 · Cage vanes adjustable without removing bolts or concaves and grates · Clean grain augers increased in diameter (7″ on 1640 and 1660 and 8″ on 1680) · Deeper clean grain elevator cross section (11.1 x 6″ on 1640 and 1660, 11.1 x 8″ on 1680) · Tear drop clean grain elevator lower boot · Tapered entry design into clean grain elevator boot · Inclined delivery auger standard on all 1680’s and 1660 rice models · Shaft speed monitor standard (monitors 9 areas, two more, feeder and spreader) · Improved lighting package (6-60 watt halogen lights including one long distance light) · Optional feeder reverser all 1600 (field kits for certain 1400 series) · Introduction of 1020 Flexible Cutterbar Header · 1.5″ knife system standard on 1020 Flex. Optional on 1010 · Cross auger lifts with reel lift for reversing · PIN Numbers o 1620: PIN start JJC0012001, D-358 Engine o 1640: PIN start JJC0014001, D-466 Engine o 1660: PIN start JJC0016001, DT-466B Engine o 1680: PIN start JJC0018001, DTI-466C Engine 1987- · Direction of rotation for rotary air screen reversed · Shaft speed monitor made standard · Final drive axle changed to one-piece forged shaft · PIN Numbers o 1620: PIN start JJC0022001, D-358 Engine o 1640: PIN start JJC0024001, D-466 Engine o 1660: PIN start JJC0026001, DT-466B Engine o 1680: PIN start JJC0028001, DTI-466C Engine 1988- · Model number decals were moved up to the front of the combine beside the grain tank · Rotor drive pulley improved · Slotted bolt holes in concave hanger brackets on RH side · PIN Numbers o 1620: PIN start JJC0023001, D-358 Engine o 1640: PIN start JJC0034001, D-466 Engine o 1660: PIN start JJC0036001, DT-466B Engine o 1680: PIN start JJC0038001, DTI-466C Engine 1989- Introduction of New CDC Engines (4/1/1989), Introduction of 1670 Hillside Axial-Flow Combine · 1620: 145-Hp 5.9 Liter, 125 Bu. Grain Tank, PIN start JJC032351 (CDC engine 6T-590), 20” rotor · 1640: 160-Hp 5.9 Liter, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, PIN start JJC034705 (CDC engine 6TA-590), 24” rotor · 1660: 190-Hp 8.3 Liter, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, PIN start JJC038347 (CDC engine 6T-830), 24” rotor · 1670: 235-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, PIN start JJC080540 (CDC engine 6TA-830), 24” rotor · 1680: 235-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, PIN start JJC045689 (CDC engine 6TA-830), 30” rotor · In-line core radiators replace staggered tube design · 110 amp Bosch alternator replaced 90 amp Motorola with engine deflector shields · Battery sizes upgraded · Coolant level sensor added · Engine aspirator for Navistar engine combines · PIN Numbers o 1620: PIN start JJC0023630 o 1640: PIN start JJC0034501 o 1660: PIN start JJC0037616 o 1670: PIN start JJC0080501 o 1680: PIN start JJC0045351 1990- · Audible alarm added to grain-tank full indicator · Right side service access door added on 1640/1660 · Heavy-duty cleaning system drive parts: sieve hangers, hanger arms, pitmans, & shafts · Cab heater valve replaced by valve from 7100 Magnum tractors · PIN Numbers o 1620: PIN start JJC0032250 o 1640: PIN start JJC0035300 o 1660: PIN start JJC0039550 o 1670: PIN start JJC0080540 o 1680: PIN start JJC0047025 1991- · High visibility reel released for 1020 Flex and 1010 headers · Long cleaning system released for 1680 grain combines starting at PIN JJC047412 · Dual spin-on hydraulic filters on 1680 · Electric fuel transfer pump on 1680 · PIN Numbers o 1620: PIN start JJC0032950 o 1640: PIN start JJC0097001 o 1660: PIN start JJC0102001 o 1670: PIN start JJC0080560 o 1680: PIN start JJC0115001 1992- Introduction of Field Tracker · 1620 and 1670 combines discontinued · 92-120″ rear axle made standard · Fuel line diameter increased to ½” and screen eliminated from tank · Hydraulic reservoir increased from 5 gallons to 8 gallons · Horizontal hydraulic valve stack · Header height control accumulator made standard · Auxiliary and reel drive pumps combined into one dual pump · Dual spin-on hydraulic filters on 1640/1660 (same as 1680) · 2-piece hydrostatic steel lines replaced by a center steel tube with outer rubber hoses with 4-bolt split flange connectors · Rotor coupling bolts changed from grade 5 to grade 8 · PIN Numbers o 1640: PIN start JJC0097190 o 1660: PIN start JJC0103800 o 1680: PIN start JJC0117060 1993- Introduction of Second Generation 1600 Series Axial-Flow Combines · 1644: 180-Hp 5.9 Liter, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, 6TA-590 engine, 24” rotor · 1666: 215-Hp 8.3 Liter, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, 6T-860 engine, 24” rotor · 1688: 260-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 6T-830 engine, 30” rotor · Introduction of Cross-Flow Cleaning Fan · Long cleaning system (13.75″ added to chaffer and shoe sieve) increase of 25.9% for 1644/1666 and 23.7% for 1688 · Larger air cleaners on 1666/1688 · Water-pump sealed stalk roll bearings on 1000 series corn heads · PIN Numbers o 1644: PIN start JJC0097675 o 1666: PIN start JJC0104850 o 1688: PIN start JJC0118860 1994- Introduction of Straw/Chaff spreader system (factory and field codes for long sieve units) · 1644 gets 1666/1688 transmission, final drive, and brakes · Optional cold-start package (ether assist and block heater) · Electric fuel pump added on 1644/1666 · Radial-seal type engine air filters · Transition cone & rotor cage seam bolts heads treated with tungsten-carbide · Unloading auger spill saver added · PIN Numbers o 1644: PIN start JJC0098060 o 1666: PIN start JJC0106005 o 1688: PIN start JJC0120460 1995- Introduction of 2100 Series Axial-Flow Combine · 2144: 180-Hp 5.9 Liter, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 2166: 215-Hp 8.3 Liter, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 2188: 260-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” rotor · All new cab and styling (23% more total glass area than 1600 series) o Improved stadium-design lighting o New optional lighting package (after cut, side flood, rear work, and service lights) o Theater style lay-out to right-hand console o Multi-function propulsion lever o New A-post instrumentation center o Improved operator ladder o Focalized cab mounting system · New pressure and flow-compensated (PFC) hydraulics and wet brakes · New safety shielding, service platforms, hand rails, and guards · Improved hinged service panels for easier access · AFS systems released (March) · AFS field installed kit released (September) · PIN Numbers o 2144: PIN start JJC0172501 o 2166: PIN start JJC0178501 o 2188: PIN start JJC0189001 1996- Factory installed AFS (Advanced Farming System) systems released (March) · PIN Numbers o 2144: PIN start JJC0172845 o 2166: PIN start JJC0180000 o 2188: PIN start JJC0191483 1997- · New 13 bolt final drive mounting (previous 7 bolt mount) · Poly skid shoes factory option · New larger cab air filter on right side of cab · Fold-in rear window · Splined feeder jackshaft replaces keyed shaft · Transmission changed from a 3-bolt to a 5-bolt retention pattern on the differential bearing carrier. · Locking collar on final drive shaft couplers replaces bolt · Rear axle center section tubing increased from 5/16″ to 3/8″ · Drive plate added to rotor drive coupler · Main hydrostatic tubes replaced with hoses · Seals added to front rotor cover · Detents added to LH shields · One-piece cleaning fan hinge rod · Floating hex shaft between front and rear unloading augers · Unloading auger outer elbow housing rivets changed from ¼” to 5/16″ · Larger Drive axle mounting flange · Heavy duty feeder jackshaft including cast iron pulley · PIN Numbers o 2144: PIN start JJC0173150 o 2166: PIN start JJC0182025 o 2188: PIN start JJC0193725 1998- Introduction of 2300 Series Axial-Flow Combines · 2344: 174-Hp 5.9 Liter, 145 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 2366: 240-Hp 8.3 Liter, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 2388: 280-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” rotor · Tailings volume monitor standard · Deluxe cab standard · Auto temperature control standard · Engine air filter restriction indicator added to A-post display · Engine air intake manifold temperature indicator and feeder shut-off (2388) · Hydraulically driven rotary air screen (2388) (27% larger area) · 68×50-32h high flotation tire option (1730 Sq. In. contact area) (38% less ground P.S.I.) · 600/65-R28 high flotation tire option (710 Sq. In. contact area) (19% less ground P.S.I.) · Rotor skin increased thickness and strength (3 times more resistant to denting) · Three speed rotor gearbox (2388) w/ adjuster lever on left side of cab · New rotor drive belt (27% increased contact area with pulleys) (21% increased service life) · Torque sensing cam angle increased to 39 degrees · Charge air cooling with air-to-air after-cooling (2388) · New lower profile engine air filter design (38% larger filter area) · Radiator spinner blade standard · PIN Numbers o 2344: PIN start JJC0174000 o 2366: PIN start JJC0184200 o 2388: PIN start JJC0197000 1999- Introduction of AFS Universal Display · Optional extended wear package · Grooved torque sensing pulleys standard · Reverse rotation on left side auger in auger bed · Optional edible bean package · Ladder reworked with flexible bottom step · Improved sealing on feeder position potentiometers · Draper headers released (limited production) · Poly snouts standard on 1000 series narrow corn heads · PIN Numbers o 2344: PIN start JJC0174260 o 2366: PIN start JJC0252304 o 2388: PIN start JJC0265306 2000- · Ground level clean grain elevator mount moisture sensor on AFS combines · New HVAC system with digital display (like MX Magnum) · Air intake is not drawn from engine radiator air chute instead of rotary air screen · Greaseable hydrostatic drive hub · 2388 rear axle standard on 2344/66 combines · 2388 rotor cage constructed of AR235 wear-resistant steel · Cast shaker pivot support channels · Precision-drilled holes in elevator slip clutch drive hub · Stalk roll bearing shield on 1000 series corn heads · PIN Numbers o 2344: PIN start JJC0174360 o 2366: PIN start JJC0252950 o 2388: PIN start JJC0267150 2001- · Hydraulic feeder reverser · 4-groove Kevlar cord feeder drive belt · 3rd bearing on rock trap · Rochelle rotor available · External straw chopper adjustment and taller “coined” blades · Predrilled for external sieve adjusters · Sieve viewing door and light · 12-row ready package for 2388 (4WD) · 122% larger toolbox · 180 gallon fuel tank replaces 123 gallon on 2388 · LH shields can be opened without lifting up side sheets · 16-weight bracket available · Hillco leveling available from the factory · 2200 series corn heads introduced · PIN Numbers o 2344: PIN start JJC0174400 o 2366: PIN start JJC0254000 o 2388: PIN start JJC0268800 2002- · Steel pin replaces cotter pin in upper feeder shaft · 1-piece concaves · External sieve adjusters available as factory option · Push-button chaff spreader coupler · Curved chaff spreader bats factory option · 2-speed straw spreader pulley · Grain drain filler plates standard in grain tank · Clean grain auger inlet cone standard on 2388 – 15% more clean grain elevator capacity · Belt-engage separator drive on 2388 replaces wet PTO clutch (with 5-rib separator drive belt) · 130 gallon fuel tank on 2344/66 · 14.9-24 8PR R1 rear tires and heavy-duty rims standard on 2344/66 · 12-row ready package available for 2WD combines · Hinged right rear side panel with gas strut · Grease banks for steering axle, unloading auger elbow, and front rotor bearing · Rotor gearbox speed adjusting lever moved to LH side of cab · Feeder predrilled for Black Ace silencer kit · New design auger fingers on 1020 grain heads (spring pin, broken fingers are collected in auger) · Mechanical linkage AHHC replaces cable on 1020 grain heads · PIN Numbers o 2344: PIN start JJC0174460 o 2366: PIN start JJC0255000 o 2388: PIN start JJC0270500 2003- 2344 combine discontinued, Introduced: AFX8010 Axial-Flow combine, built in Grand Island Nebraska · 2366: 250-Hp 8.3 Liter, 180 Bu. Grain Tank, 24” rotor · 2388: 280-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” rotor · New AFX rotor on 2388: 5-25% more throughput · Larger rotor drive pulleys, 900-lb. rotor drive spring, longer seamless rotor belt · Wire cloth mesh hydraulic drive rotary air screen relocated to RH side of combine, direct-flow design, with swing-open access door · Square wave technology on radiator and charge air cooler to prevent “deep-core” plugging · 2366 now featured a 250-HP air-to-air after-cooled engine · Muffler as standard · New air cleaner design · New operator’s seat with adjustable LH armrest and removable seat cushions · Heavy-duty 2WD rear axle with dual-steering cylinders optional on 2388 · PIN Numbers o 2366: PIN start JJC0255700 o 2388: PIN start JJC0273000 2004- · 208” extended-wear unloading auger made standard on 2388 · All 2388’s have extended wear auger bed augers, clean grain auger, grain tank bottom and vertical augers, HVOF diver’s helmet, and HVOF front rotor channel · The feeder on the 2388 is now 3rd cylinder ready · Coined feeder slats standard on 2366/2388 · Composite frame stainless steel wire mesh (0.024” hole size) rotary air screen standard, along with larger, external dirt chute, and one-piece bulb type door seal · Torque sensing unit cam angle changed to 54 degrees on 2388 · Stainless steel vanes in rotor cage standard on 2388 · 2004 last year of production at East Moline Illinois plant. · PIN Numbers o 2366: PIN start JJC0256400 o 2388: PIN start JJC0274450 2005- Production moved from East Moline, IL to Grand Island Nebraska, 2366 discontinued · 2377: 250-Hp 8.3 Liter, 190 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” rotor · 2388: 280-Hp 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” rotor · 2366 replaced by 2377 · AFX rotor standard · Small wire concaves heat treated · Engine air deflectors · New Grand Island paint scheme o Non-painted accessory part and component protection o New E-Coat protection for critical internal areas · PIN Numbers- East Moline, IL o 2366: PIN start JJC0257600-JJC257696 o 2388: PIN start JJC0276100-JJC0276540 · PIN Numbers- Grand Island, NE o 2377: PIN start HAJ0292001 o 2388: PIN start HAJ0292001 2006- Tier lll electronic 8.3L engines: · 2377: 255-Hp rated/290 HP maximum 8.3 Liter, 190 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” Rotor · 2388: 285-Hp rated/325 HP maximum 8.3 Liter, 210 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” Rotor · Field Tracker frame thickness increased from 0.25” to 0.31” · Enhanced engine monitoring with automatic shutdown · 20% larger radiator · Heavy-duty 3-speed rotor gearbox and inverted rotor belt · Curved spreader bats standard · Windshield washer is a factory option · Pre-wired for the Auto-Lube system · Unloading auger tube reinforced · Rotating beacons optional · Sight glass for hydraulic reservoir · Full-fingered auger optional from the factory on 1020 grain head 2007­- Introduction of 2500 Series Axial-Flow Combines · 2577: 265-Hp 8.3 Liter, 230 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” Rotor · 2388: 305-Hp 8.3 Liter, 290 Bu. Grain Tank, 30” Rotor · Yield moisture and flow sensors and AFS badges standard · AFS Pro 600 monitor · Field Tracker- additional bolts added to each side of feeder to prevent face plate from tipping forward under heavy load · Lengthened feeder top shaft sprocket assembly to reduce shaft bending · 3rd cylinder anchor bracket standard · Final drive gears shot peened to improve life · Transmission 2nd gear width increased · Wheel bolts changed from M20 to M22 · Increased rotor drive coupler attaching plate thickness in bulk head to achieve longer bolt thread engagement · Rotor gear case shift lever plated and bore size increased to eliminate seizing from corrosion · Rear axle center section material thickness increased from 9mm to 12.7mm · Unload rate increased to 2.4 bu/second · Unload tube length increased to 18’ or 21’ · Straw spreader curtain length increased · Bottom tailing elevator housing material thickness increased · Clean grain elevator slip clutch torque increased by 20% · Power-Clean Evacuation System was introduced, included an hydraulically driven evacuation fan and optional rotary brush 2008- · Hydraulic reverser accumulator update to improve reliability · Optional single point latching system · Optional single point hydraulic multi-coupler · Stronger rotor drive coupler · Redesigned cleaning system pitman arm bushings that are more durable · Approved for B20 biodiesel · PIN Numbers o 2577: PIN start HAJ302001 o 2588: PIN start HAJ302001

Love the collection!

I'm pretty sure you live in the middle of an IH gold mine down there!

from what I've researched there are only two options, 1.get yours rebuilt from Dale or 2. get a new one from CaseIH. I'm putting a new one on my 5488 as we speak and I got it new through IH.