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  1. The 460/560/H-M housing has weakness for transferring torque between the bull pinion and final drives.  It uses the top cover to reinforce the rear-end as without would drive the 2 shafts apart breaking the rear end.  I have witnessed this in a NA pulling application on a 460 rear end without the cover effectively breaking the rear end, the solution was run a portion of the top cover, after replacement of the rear housing.

    The 656 rear end housing has a cast tower part of the rear end around the bull pinion and much greater webbing area effectively eliminating this weakness.

    Scott

  2. On 11/10/2021 at 9:09 AM, vtfireman85 said:

    @New Englander I just corrected the part number. In VT there is a 10 dollar rebate if you can justify them as commercial. NH might have a similar program. I get them through CED, not sure what wholesalers you have. 

    Can you link the bulb link please?  Search did not come up even with corrected PN.

    Thanks,

    Scott

  3. This seems to be a issue with the early ones.  Mine falls on the battery every once in a blue moon.  I used lots of grease and in the past it has prolonged it.  I plan to locktite it also next time but good luck for future service.

  4. Our old 1959 F460 from way back...a warmed over 282NA out to 430cid with spark plugs turn 6700rpm.  This one was serial 7K and at one point in its life had the bull gear come through the rear end housing it was patched and brazed.

    Always was partial to the styling of the 60 series.

    Scott

     

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  5. Someday I will have a full house Generac on NG.  Having a couple quotes but I think most I can sub or do myself...

    One thing I will do is because my utilities and generator will all be in the corner of the house close by.  I will run the battery in the basement a dry cell or AGM.  No point of it being in the hot or cold or having a battery heater in the winter...the one guy I had quote it said they don't recommend as this would void the warranty😄

  6. Ok that absolutely sucks!  I would be livied!  I would be on every career site applying even during my customer support time even if was a separate personal computer!

    So now I'm really curious on what company this is?  I know you dropped a hint.  PM sent!

    Scott

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  7. 2 years ago any lawyer would win a client a pile of money against any corporation or business in a case like this.  Unfortunately today we live in a different world and it appears that the new law will side with the corporation or appears that is the way the pendulum is swinging.  I don't agree with it but that is what I see and it has changed fast.  Robert you will hopefully find something better but trust me there are many many stories like yours.

    Scott

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  8. Trying to keep this IH related...

    I live in the suburbs with 2.2 acres moved in last year.  Part of the appeal was I could build up to a 1600 Sq ft or 40x40 garage.  I have given verbal approval that this will not be a problem.  The issue I now face as I start to get into details is the height restriction of 16'.  With 10' walls this puts me a 3x12 pitch.  I am going to obviously seek a variance to 20' which would give me a 5x12.  This would also easily allow my planned 2 post 12' Atlas car lift, the 656 will fit under the 8.5' door.  I still may do scissor trusses to get enough vertical.

    My question is should I approach the township board pleading about the low pitch and excessive maintenance, advice fro over time and or disclose about the car lift as well, advice from the builder ect.  Advise is usually great on the forum and any and all is welcome I wish there was still a area for this type of subject...

    Thanks,

    Scott

  9. 19 hours ago, Rusty shackleford said:

    Mine had the same hitch and clevis and the other super c

    Including height?  1" lower hitch height can make a world of difference.  If it is the old factory drawbar most are bent.  A fixed clevis shimmed with washers can also keep the hook higher as the clevis does sag under load, the twisted clevis is also a advantage as it sits higher then a conventional clevis and that can be shimmed rigid with washers too.

    I prefer cut steel plates that are adjustable by moving the bolt locations forward or back, off the drawbar depending on track conditions.

    It seems like your drawbar was to low.  So either you need to raise it as much as the rule book allows or make a hitch that sits back farther that allows weigh transfer off the front end to the rear tires.

    Scott

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  10. 3 rings are modern as compared to 4 rings, I have a Ford farm stock pulling engine 401cid where I left the 4th ring out.  With metallurgy advancements rings have become thinner as they conform to the bore better under bore distortion.  There are companies that offer ring spacers to utilize a thinner ring in a existing wider ring land piston.  Total Seal is my go to for my ring needs, they seem to be the leader in cutting edge technology.

    Scott

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  11. Have read great reviews on that Bars liquid stop leak...in fact used it on my 656 on a external seep on the HG that showed up this summer.

    Not a fan of liquid sealer but was not ready to tear down for a small external seap that was not getting into the cylinder so the sealer went into the rad, So far so good.

    Scott

  12. Thank you!

    Possible I think the split manifold was a failure due to transitions from the actual manifold to the mock up pipe.  Did some testing the past on a truck manifolds on the previous 263 using the stock 656 carb it did not like the manifolds either.

    One thing I have noticed is it is very fuel efficient.  It does more work with less fuel as compared to the 263.  Alot I attribute to the changes I made which translates to off the governor when light loading.

    I have struggled with oil with this engine the 10W30 did not seem to work.  I had alot of oil residue in the chambers 1-2-5-6.  I expected the Nappier second ring with an 3mm oil to have superior oil control, I don't expect oil is coming from the valve guides.  It shows no signs of burning oil while running, I just discovered this in a routine check.  I have switched to 30W and have yet to see if this curred it.  My machinist thinks it could be a reaction with the ethanol fuel.  I think he has a pretty solid theory since 3-4 did not have problem and I expect better atomization with these cylinders.

    It does run dang good though!

    Scott

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  13. Take that Cummins and IH466 and hold it at the 2000 rpm and lug it hard you will have a clear winner.  Although that's really not fair with the 100 more CID.  My point is all tractor engines are rated at much lower rpm hence the torque curve.

  14. This has never caught on and I am not sure why.  Torque is king in low rpm engines.  When you have a engine that is make 94hp at 540pto and then still 92hp at 450pto she is kicking out some torque.  I know all the dynos have the conversions from hp to torque.

    Scott

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  15. Well not what I had planned for, ran 1st high sat right at 1800rpm all way down the track and then about the 240' mark front went up a little then higher, then higher, lost my hitch height, spun out with the front end in the air I'm guessing 15-1600rpm. Next year I will leave the back bracket at home, had 450lbs off the 3pt quick hitch.  Sorry no video yet but here is a screen shot of how high it went.  On the bright side had no problem spinning out in high 1st.

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  16. Ready for the local fair tomorrow.  Can't win as dyno will not be legal I would settle for second or third though...still debating on weights between the center and rear, track conditions help decide that.  I expect to not have to have to TA it in 1st and even thought about running 2nd low.  Will see how it all goes tomorrow in the 9K farm class at the Armada Fair at 12pm.

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