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766 Man

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  1. Used to be quite a number of pavers around with an IH hydro as a base. This is no fluke in terms of a one time build.
  2. I can think of a lot of areas in NY where 3-4 new tractors total would have been average. This would include utilities. Our closest IH dealer would have on average 3 or 4 new row crops and a couple of utilities. Go over into vegetable country and there would be more but certainly not double. Down in the Southern Tier a couple new tractors total would have been average stock. I still maintain that for quite a number of models the jockeys brought more back from the Midwest than what were sold new. How far away was Darrow from you? He always had close to a dozen used IH 56 and 66 series tractors for sale.
  3. Not unheard of around here. But you can haul "heavy" if you have the permits along with the correct truck and trailer.
  4. Freight is nothing like it is today but even back then there had to be a whole lot more freight to get a tractor 100 miles or so east of Buffalo, NY than within a couple hundred miles of the Farmall plant.
  5. 4020 synchro diesel was usually under an 806 diesel with TA all other features such as tires and remotes being the same.
  6. Well said. The economy around here went into steep decline during the 1980's. The people who wanted to work and lost their job left. Things kind of leveled out during the 1990's but kids left the area after graduation as there was little to do economy-wise. My friend and I were just talking about this yesterday. Home values have really shot up in the last decade but we chalk that up to being dirt cheap when compared to other areas. People have moved here in part due to the state prison system and have a loved one serving extensive time. They can sell their crap house in NYC for 300,000 dollars and come up here and live like kings. I think it will get real ugly for the people in their 20's looking to start their life for 36,000 dollars annual gross income and have to buy a poor house for 275,000 dollars that 20 years ago would have been lucky to fetch 75,000 dollars. Rising interest rates will only make it worse.
  7. A large factor in pricing for a dealer is quantity ordered and cash or floor plan. Most of the dealers around here would not compare with a high volume Midwest dealer in terms of pricing. Maybe a handful of IH dealers in NY had a dozen or more 66 series row crops in their yard at any one time. If somebody wanted a 1466 around here they most likely would have had their local dealer order it. The farmer next door back during the 1970's paid almost 14,000 dollars for his 1974 966 with factory cab.
  8. A third of 29,500 dollars? A farmer I knew bought a 1466 just after college in 1972. Seems to me he paid over 18,000 dollars for an open station 18.4 X 38 with dual speed PTO equipped tractor.
  9. I just sent a sample in to Spectrum Labs via my local fertilizer dealer. The cost was 17 dollars. Organic matter is very important in rehabbing neglected ground. One reason as to why I have worked more wheat into the rotation is clover will come voluntarily or can be seeded this time of year following wheat and can be killed next spring to make way for corn or soybeans.
  10. It would matter more if I had a bunch of later Case IH equipment to service. Also, this is getting to be a few years back now and I think the faces have changed. For my needs the area mom and pop shop has taken good care of me. He can't always come right to the phone but usually gets back to me within a couple of hours. The dealer is the dealer where I am as they run a sizable portion of the region here.
  11. Yes. But for the sake of fairness I have not needed their shop for a while now and the philosophy of a location is based on the people running it. Attitude probably varies with location. I go to an area Mennonite shop for advice and used parts for my IH stuff. He treats me well. Back to MT I do business with the parts department and feel like I have been treated well but there are certainly no bargains to be had.
  12. Nobody around these parts will loan or rent tools. The area Case IH dealer will not even offer advice. You need something done then schedule work with the shop foreman and pay.
  13. I'm sure in some parts of the state they were. Around here the 966 was the big seller and where I went to college the first two years a 966 would have been considered a big tractor. The big farms around here did not bother with 130 plus 2 wheel drives even if they had MFWD. They opted for a 4 wheel drive whether it be a JD, IH, or Steiger. There were a lot of jockey's bringing 1466's into NY during the 1980's and 1990's. Finger Lakes Tractor was one of them.
  14. There are virtually no consequences in society for criminal behavior so our world is in a moral free fall.
  15. The origins of EFD go back to sponsorship by the Empire (State) Potato Club with local businesses providing most of the support. During the 1960's the show evolved from that bringing in more companies looking to display their products. By the 1970's companies such as IH and JD depended on several dealers to adequately fill a display. Very few dealers could afford to stock a significant portion of a display. Very few 1466's were sold new around here and very few dealers would stick their neck out for a product they had a poor chance of selling plus paying interest to floor plan it. If I had to guess most of the 1466 tractors that are left here in NY came in via jockey who got them used from the Midwest.
  16. It kills the enthusiasm when you think about the prices of the new equipment. I stopped caring about model numbers over 10 years ago. Moving it around has a lot to do with pride of a farmer and the county he resides in. Decades ago the show would go as far west as Rochester and as far southeast as the research farm at Cornell. Decades ago as a kid I would hear farmers openly dreaming of being hosts for EFD. I can say that one of the decisions that went into Seneca Falls back during the late 1980's was to have a site that was reasonably close to I-90. One that had a few hundred acres available during the growing season. Those requirements eliminated sites that may have been even closer to the NYS Thruway.
  17. Behind the scenes there were and are people who never wanted the show to stay in one location. I know a few of the people involved with the workings of the show. Some wanted to go back to continuous rotation of sites but some wanted to reduce cost by slowly building up infrastructure at the Seneca Falls site. I could say more but I don't think this is the place to do so.
  18. I have changed very little. Of course I did not start the internet thing until around 15 years ago so I was late to a lot of things. But about that time I was old enough to know or ask about many things. I am sure that I will definitely ask about things as I know I am not a complete mechanic and some things will stump me but be simple to someone who has been around the block a time or two. I can also advise and have picked up on some things through experience. I just learned that worn spools can keep a gang from staying tight on a 770 disk. The wear can be hard to see but the tape measure and a new spool do not lie.
  19. The only concern of the "decision makers" in all this is to bring inflation down even if their plan is misguided. I doubt that any of them are worried that the pizza delivery guy is trying to buy a 400,000 dollar home, 85,000 dollar dually pickup, 45,000 dollar compact tractor, 20,000 dollar UTV, and other toys he can't afford in reality.
  20. Enough to wet the pavement out of today's weather system. With August just around the corner this is not looking good for fall crops.
  21. A professor back in college maintained if you had a loan it had a clause to call that note in at anytime. The purpose was to make sure the lender could cash in on rising rates if it so chose. With all the First National's gone there is no giving the local lender the evil eye if they called you in. Today lenders operate like mercenaries and I doubt anybody is taking a bath to keep a customer happy. Honor among thieves? I doubt it and it will take a little bit of doing but like in any industry once one player does it they will be quick to follow.
  22. Nice pick ups. I've got the 1978 Buyer's Guide and look through it quite a bit. I had the 1970 Buyer's Guide, looked through it, and then gave someone else the pleasure of owning it. If I had the money I would have a whole room devoted to farm equipment literature. All colors would be welcome.
  23. I like these threads where we get to learn about pricing from decades ago.
  24. When there were more dairies in ENY more WNY hay went into New England. Many of those former ENY dairies now ship hay into NE.
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