766 Man

??????? You just pointed out a non salary reason to have a union in employee safety. OSHA does not cover every place and everything. A place I worked at almost 20 years ago had a worker get killed even though the equipment he was working on had his lockout in place on it. It was not a union shop but my point is that equipment could have very well had no provision for safety even though another worker had the means to remove the lock. Businesses will often follow the path of least cost including minimal safety features on equipment.

That 1460 would suit me just fine as long as it was not completely wore out.

Been through idiot management most of the stops I made in the business world. When I worked for Central Tractor during the mid-1990's they thought that they could actually go toe to toe with Walmart in terms of buying power. A result of that being they stopped stocking anything that did not turn over inventory once every two weeks. In favor of buying cheap and shoddy clothing to sell.

So, do they get all the Sundays and religious holidays off? If they do I wonder how the rest of the employees feel? I remember back in the 1990's I worked at a few places where there was a lot of fighting over those things.

Lee Iacocca worked for a dollar per year the first couple of years he ran Chrysler. I don't see those days coming back anytime soon.

Inflation during the 1970's had two major drivers. The grain deals where we sold wheat to the Soviets during the early 1970's and the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973. Both limited supply of food and fuel to US citizens. A decision was made to raise interest rates during the late 1970's which showed a lack of understanding of the problem. The rates of which peaked over 20 percent during 1981 lead to a deep recession. This was as much a reason as anything else as to why IH failed.

......Just more inflation for everyone. That was more so my point than a peeing match between workers and management. I'm sticking with a cost increase of 30 percent until proven otherwise. Then the associated costs of interest and extended warranties (which most consumers are forced to take on). Who is buying a pickup at 150,000 dollars when this is all put into place? It is also not helping the used inventory if more buyers put off a purchase until their vehicle will not pass inspection without a ton of money spent.

Speculation by the local weather man was a few places in NY's Southern Tier got a light frost Thursday morning even though it was not forecast.

That 2018 is not even worth 10,000 in normal times. It is unreal.

I try to spend 60 dollars or less at the grocery store each week but that is impossible anymore if I want to keep meat on my bones. Five years ago 60 dollars bought plenty of food plus I could buy ahead in terms of can goods, soaps, and forzen foods that would not be consumed that week.

A fellow down the road during the 1960's bought two new JD 3020 diesel tractors. One was NFE and had a 237 JD mounted picker that stayed on it until he sold off his equipment around 1975. It was said owning a dedicated picking tractor was a status symbol and a sign that a guy made it as a farmer. I worked with a guy from Iowa around 1990 and he said the same thing in that if you had a dedicated picker tractor you were a community VIP.

Because things don't cost the same in NY as they do in Arkansas. Or in Illinois. Sometimes consumers are their own worst enemy as they are willing to overpay for things such as homes and vehicles if they have a few bucks in their pockets. I would be willing to bet that those living on 10 dollars per hour give up certain items that make life more comfortable to live. Also, 10 dollars probably goes further in the mid-South where a snow shovel and milk house heater gets them through the winter where in Western NY if you own any amount of driveway and want to make it to work on time you need to own a snowblower plus you need to own a furnace and feed it whatever energy it requires.

Hillman, read about the Haymarket riots in Chicago, IL which happened during the latter half of the 19th Century. It concerned the McCormick's who had a long history on their own and as part of IH. Can't have your cake and in this case not eat it too if you say IH started in 1831 with the introduction of the reaper.

A lot of truth in this. The 1979 strike crippled IH quite bad but the 1980's economics would have finished off IH regardless. IH never had the deep financial division to offer credit like JD did during the worst of it from 1983-1986. IH also made a low margin on each item it manufactured. IH also had a double whammy in that both the agriculture and trucking industries were hurting quite bad at the same time. I know it is unpopular to say here but two gentlemen my dad knew had close relatives who worked for IH in Chicago and there were management and stockholders who wanted to be rid of the ag division because they thought heavy trucks offered a better future. Like I said the 1979 strike for sure hurt IH but even with no strike IH might have been at a very unpleasant crossroads by 1990.

That already happened a few years ago around here. Drive by any used vehicle lot and you will see there is virtually nothing in stock for a pickup of any category.

I'll be one of those people. Too few quality jobs around here that carry a hefty paycheck with them. A lot of people fighting for scraps.

I never bought in that part of the market. My last truck had less than 25,000 miles on it when I bought it in 2009 and I paid 16,500 dollars for it. I did have to finance it.

Just heard this morning on the radio news that some expect artificial intelligence to fill perhaps 80 percent of that demand. So lets pump the brakes on more immigrants and I would suspect around me a number of work age adults could use a job. They get by because they get supported by a spouse or other family member but certainly a paycheck would be greatly appreciated.

Not so fast. I get where you are coming from but to live near their employment workers pay a lot more in living costs than people in the country. Homes went to 100,000 dollars or more in cost in the city by decades than those in the country. At the same time improving road infrastructure meant you could buy a loaf of bread for 50 cents per loaf versus 1.10 dollars per loaf a couple blocks over from the factory after work. 35 dollars per hour would be excellent wages around me but would not go nearly as far in Rochester, NY.

I need a new (to me) PU but the used market has been all but stripped bare. I never bought a factory new PU and always found excellent value on the used market using a little patience. It's not going to happen this time I hate to say.

If I could live comfortably I would choose to live then versus now. Yes, there are more conveniences now but far more uncertainty as well.

Maybe in the South where there is no salt to eat away at a vehicle. These finance companies will insist on extended warranties which will add to the cost of a new vehicle. So throw another 20,000 dollars onto the 100,000 dollar vehicle. Interest rates are on the rise and I hear rates of in excess of 10 percent annual. Most people have to finance the majority of their purchase. So with 25 percent down that leaves 75,000 dollars or more to finance. So another 25,000, 35,000 or more dollars in interest. So now with all the fees and interest that 100,000 dollar truck has bloated into 150,000 dollars or more of cost. With corn dipping below 5.00 dollars per bushels how many new duallies will be pulling into the local consignment sale in 2025 and beyond to impress the neighbors?

I'd take a work truck hand crank windows and all. But there is less money in building those than the fully equipped models for the manufacturer.

No would have meant his firing. I'm not saying what he did was right but in the end he was human just like most of us are when we are asked to do something dubious. Yes, Delco made fuel systems and electrical components which is where his assignment was. I would imagine that plant was at least in part responsible for supplying the ag equipment companies such as IH with starters, generators, and distributors.

I understand where you are coming from but find it ironic this being said on the board of a company that had very poor relations with labor dating back to the 19th Century.