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Please provide times this event will run…..
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On 4/1/2022 at 5:52 PM, 766 Man said:
Yes, there was no way to recover the income lost by the strike during the deep recession of the early 1980's. Companies like JD contracted out work to keep factories running. I don't know exact production but if serial numbers are an indicator JD's production fell off steeply by the time the 50 series came out in 1983. There really was no place to go for any extra production to go if made during those years. As it was inventory backed up into the following model year in many dealerships. An area IH dealer here took on a second location in early 1983 which was closed by Case IH in both locations in 1985 when Case IH was figuring out its dealer network. The one bright spot for those immediately closed was a payout of 250,000 dollars per location which some used to reinvent themselves as Ford NH dealers. Others wished that they were closed as their costs on inventory were on par with the selling price of the big multiple location Case IH dealer here. Case IH was pretty much down to multi-location dealers by the early 1990's in this region.
About half of this is correct. Dealers did not get $250,000. It was like $10,000 and they bought back the stock. IH did not sell their dealers to Tenneco, IH gave Tenneco access to their dealers. Tenneco didn’t have to keep any of them, but of course they did keep a lot of them. Read this dealers law suit
https://law.justia.com/cases/south-dakota/supreme-court/1987/15329-1.html
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On 4/1/2022 at 4:17 PM, acem said:
I'm glad Tennaco bought cih.
Tennaco and the later owners have at least tried to maintain parts support and brand recognition. Think about the parts support for many other brands that have been 'merged'.
If fiat would have bought Navistar instead of Volkswagen it would have been better. Most of the old IH would be back under the same ownership!
If nobody would have bought out the ag division of IH they would have gone bankrupt. At least Tennaco had deep pockets to make it through the 80s.
IMHO YMMV
Thx-Ace
On 4/1/2022 at 9:40 PM, acem said:I understand because all my tractors are international, not caseih. But remember they stopped making international tractors in 85? That was 37 years ago.
Go to a Chevy, Ford or Dodge dealer and ask for parts for your 85 model sedan. Let alone a 75 or 65 model sedan!
Thx-Ace
Agree with most of this statement .
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I thought this was interesting. Behind an aggressive company is a strong logo.
Over the years I’ve read A Corporate Tragedy 3 times….been to the grounds of a closed down and mostly torn down Rock Island plant, toured East Moline when it was open. I’ve been to 401 N Michigan Ave numerous times when traveling to Chicago. As a child I dreamed up a plan where Navistar would buy back the tractors and make the 88 series in Chicago next to the trucks.
I hated it when this IH logo was discontinued for the “angled” ih in 1995. So much I wrote the company a letter..(it’s posted somewhere on here) But if IH had continued and still existed they would have updated the logo to something sexier and new.
Now I just prefer to live like it’s 1985, I buy old trucks and tractors and enjoy life.-
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Yes works fine....repair shop said it has 1400 hrs ...meter says 1400....I doubt it ....a shop fixed it up and had for sale....my brother gona paint it and restore....
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Very interesting
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Beautiful
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I call anything red IH, to this day.
I talked to a farmer that I didn’t know but I “knew of him” and asked him what number his combine was he said a case 1440. I told him that was no Case....his response was well....that’s what they call them....
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Any links to the video
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Love them ....keep them coming
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23 hours ago, Reichow7120 said:
My opinion that would be worse than we have it now. Look how many brands AGCO has killed. Tenneco/Case Corporation/ Fiat CNH hasn't killed a quarter of the brands that they have.
The minor AGCO brands stopped being used because they didn’t sell........International Harvester Brand was and (red paint ) is 2nd behind Deere ......
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21 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:
My theory only but they left IH off of the construction equipment because the name IH didn't carry much weight. Case despite what some think still carried weight on the Ag side.
What do you mean carried all the weight
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This could come full circle and get an employee buy back like AGCO....but unlikely
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They removed International before fiat......
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What “proof” does anyone have that J.I. Case only had 10 years to use International? All I see is hearsay....
on the Navistar side I have articles that say IH name went with Tenneco....but nothing that says “International” can only be used so long by Tenneco.....
why would 2 non competing corporations care ....I’d like to see something solid on this...
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I didn’t realize they used this in dozers til now
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WI PLOW DAY 2022
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Just going to watch this time…..do have a rain date: rain date ?