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  1. 11 hours ago, RBootsMI said:

    As a matter of fact... I just took these pictures a couple days ago. I thought this was really neat. Still in the area from the dealer it served; about 5 miles away. Headed to the scrapyard, so I took a picture before it's gone. 




    Don’t scrap it!!!!!!

  2. 3 hours ago, DOCTOR EVIL said:

    It was about 2-1/2 to 3 years ago.

        I used to know the stamping supplier that was making the gas caps for CIH/CNH about 15 yrs ago.  They wanted to do work for me REAL bad.

        Did ANY other tractor company use the tall triple baffle cap like IH did? I've never seen a tall cap on a Deere, or Allis, I've fueled up Oliver's they didn't, fueled a 4-150 White, also no.  But what about Massey-Ferguson, Massey-Harris, Case? I fueled up two Case industrial loaders, they didn't, 


        I bought an 8 quart plastic gas tank for my plow day Cub Cadet, cap it came with stuck up about an inch above the tank, I absolutely would not cut a hole in the hood, the neck of the tank was tall too, I sanded it down,  I was about 3/8" from closing the hood, showed the dealer parts guy, he dug around in a box and found a cap that fit the threads on the tank and I could sand a half inch off the top of the cap.  Normally I make my own tanks from steel, I've made several.

    The other part of the issue listed in the original lawsuit was that the gas tank was between the driver and the engine....Deere put their fuel tank out front so it didn’t get as warm.....

  3. Good content, even the Yogi comment. It’s all leading to government taking over everything....I once started a thread on here about original stock companies and who knew any.....like, Navistar was, Ford, John Deere, Cat...a few mentioned snap on tools.....I can’t remember the others...

  4. 560 days...good one....this has really torn me up though......Dan Ustain started with IHC in the 70’s.....this old mindset of top down was still with the company.....how can this happen twice to the same company......I’ve given up on our heritage.....Cyrus SR and Cyrus JR would be so sad......one of our oldest truck manufactures gone....just like that....leaves only Paccar as US owned and John Deere on the AG side.....such a sad ending ......but how can this happen...????????????

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  5. On 7/14/2021 at 5:19 PM, DaveinSD said:

    As for the comment about management at Navistar should have learned from the mistakes of the late 70’s and early 80’s, the big issue was that most of the Harvester guys were long gone by the time the current problems developed. My dad retired in 2010 and was one of the last Harvester holdovers still in management. And again telling, dad was passed over for one last promotion and the position was given to a young guy who had showed little in the way of competence. The given reasoning was that the kid had a college degree and dad did not, however dad had been with Harvester for 41 years and started when he was 18. Just an example of how things were being run and how post 2000 there was a concerted effort to get the old Harvester guys who had the experience and the knowledge of what went wrong to retire. There were lots of mistakes made, but Navistar was in a great position up through the mid to late 2000’s, and the engine fiasco was what ultimately broke them. Dad blames that one on the CEO, as he insisted on continuing on an incorrect path when all the engine guys were saying the opposite. I will also add that as much of the stock got bought up by industrial investors, they were more interested in making a quick buck than investing in making a profitable company for another 100 years.

    Dan Ustian started with IH in the 70’s. He worked his way up to CEO and he is the one who told engineers to stay with EGR instead of going to SCR on the Maxforce    engines....this was an old IH guy who did it again...



  6. On 10/9/2018 at 6:01 PM, cougar766 said:

    we bought a 1640 summer of 1991 as a 1991 serial # and was told she was the first year of the junk 5.9L cummins and that if we had found a carry over 1990 it would've had a DT436,,,, but I never knew for sure.. 


    this is an amazing post of the history 


  7. I think the same Senior Management decisions brought down IH a second time....(they have sold to VW as of May 2021).  Dan Ustian started at IH in the 70’s and worked his way up to CEO of IH in 2004 (Navistar). When the federal emission tiers were taking place in 2008 & 2011 he told the engine engineers to design the engines to pass without DEF.  They told him it couldn’t be done and he told them to make it work because truckers didn’t want to use DEF. the Maxxforce engines were a twin turbo design and are junk. The Ford contract was lost, they lost significant share of the truck market. They stopped making all DT engines in 2016. It was a top down approach, just the same as the old Mcormick management in the 50’s and beyond....read this 




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  8. On 4/17/2021 at 8:10 PM, Absent Minded Farmer said:

    So, IH sold off the plow line to Art's Way? Wasn't sure if it went that way or if CaseIH did it at some point. I've seen their roll overs & they still look like a green IH machine. Could have sworn they still made a vari width plow, but things change so fast these days I can't keep up.

    Did Art's Way get the grinder mixer line, too? Those mills look awfully familiar. Was going to say they were Gehl, but those went to Farmhand.... I think. As stated, it's hard to keep up with this stuff. :vD



    I’m guessing Arts Way made the mixer mills for IH and labeled them IH. If plow line was sold off it was Case that sold it...

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  9. Where in the world do you guys get Sterling in this ?  Sterling is owned by Daimler Benz. Sterling never had anything to do with International.
    Navistar is the same company as International Harvester. They renamed the company after the sale of the ag division. If you bought shares in IH before the sale of AG division  you still had shares after the merger and to this day. Just the name of the company changed. Recently (fall of 2020) Traton, which is owned by Volkswagen is buying Navistar International. So The company that was formed in 1902 will be done soon. 

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