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  1. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    The guy who worked on it (aside from being a whole story unto himself....he's a real hoot!) anyway, he made the comment that they could be used to increase or decrease the speed, just depends on which you use as input/output. I'm here to tell you.... it weighs a friggin ton! If you go back and look at the picture, you'll notice there is a metal tab/flange at 12:00. He added that under the bolt because they (two of them working together) used some kind of hoist to put this on. I moved it once and given that it was oily.... was really near all I could move. (then again, I had rotator cuff surgery in left arm, then about 10 months ago, completely broke my right arm humerus bone in two so I'm still gaining some strength in both my arms) This is NOT something I really want to put on, take off single handedly. Regarding the municipalities on roadsides..... my understanding is this mower was originally bought by either Knoxville airport or the National Guard base that also happens to be located at the same location..... irrespective of who had it.....its original owner had runways pretty close by. Was told they bought 4-5 of these and either decided they only needed 2-3 and got rid of the excess or totally went with shafts and got rid of all of them. None the less, the farmer from which I bought it, said he had a buddy at the airport/base tell him they had some brand new (then) mowers they were selling for a song & dance and he should grab one.......and he did. True or not, I don't know, that's the story. One thing I did find interesting.... when I first went to his house/farm to check it out...I had a sudden "omg, I really have to go to the bathroom and I'm 10 miles outside of town..... " to which he said no worries, I'll drive you up to my house. So we get to his house and the only bathroom is off the master bedroom. I don't think he's married (he's probably 65 years old I'm guessing) This place was scarily immaculate..... his bedroom, pristine. Bed made, shoes organized, closet closed, nothing on the bedstand other than maybe a clock and perhaps a single book. Got to the bathroom and it looked like the hotel maid just went through it. Nothing out of place, bathtub glistening white, towel folded neatly hanging from towel bar, toilet sparkling..... I mean to say, this entire place was spic-n-span clean & tidy. It showed me that he was very OCD & meticulous....probably to a clinical fault!!! None the less..... it made me very comfortable that though the mower was ugly (virtually no paint on it anywhere) I felt he was being very thorough when he was describing its strengths & needs. I don't know that I can list more than three people in general, (especially males living alone) who lived in such an organized, meticulous way...... clearly had some OCD issues going on (nothing against that)
  2. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    I almost forgot about this.... Can the rear wheels be moved out further on these axles without causing any undue strain on any bearings or am I best served to just leave them where they are? The 444 we have.... I get that accidents happen but its whees have been widened and it feels like a cat on carpet, very stable. This is a taller machine so would like to lower the center of gravity if I can. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much.... I'm not 100% but I THINK the tires are loaded. Only logic to base that on so far is the bouncing I experienced when I approached something like (??) 15/20 MPH. Below a certain speed, it drove smooth & fine given the tread on pavement.....but above that speed it clearly started bouncing forward to rearward a bit. Enough that I sped up until it bounced, then dialed the throttle back to smooth it out.
  3. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    And here is my problem child. Again, it's ugly but 99% functional. I even took it on a trial cut when I got home. Cut some thin stuff next to the house in spite of it currently raining. Looks nice. Frankly, I'm looking forward to spring so I can cut the place (I enjoy cutting the fields, it's relaxing for me) Right now, both wings are independently attached to the remotes on the back so my height adjustment is static. What I'll probably do is either join them so one control will move both wings or, leave one down and move other hose to the remote so I can raise one wing and adjust height with other remote. We have one maybe two gates where I'll have to have one wing raised for sure, maybe even both. I'll figure that out later on. Nice thing about that is, I can correct it in the field in a matter of moments.
  4. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    A before nudie.... I wonder if he charged more to clean out the mud daubers homes??!!! (I actually cleaned most of it out prior to delivering to him)
  5. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    Better angle of the mounting bracket. That was the entire reason he had ensemble. Even before I spoke with him, I knew he'd have to have both the tractor and mower so he could have things to measure & fit.
  6. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    Speed changer in yellow. The plastic cap in the middle.... I asked about that. Evidently the splines for the PTO to go into the input shaft go all the way through the piece so he simply capped it off. Pump is attached to the speed changer. On the tractor you can see the red bracket he made to fit around the 1000 pto. I've not yet looked (only got home 5 minutes ago) but I'm guessing there's a similar diameter on the 540 pto. He said he designed it so the bracket could stay and PTO still be used.
  7. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    Being ignorant of these things, that is what I was wondering.... seems to get a thumbs down in the neighborhood....but....that's ok by me. I don't have anything that I could attach to it other than the mower!!! I was just looking ahead, if the mower ever crapped out on me and I dumped it, first...I'd probably try to salvage the pumps and hydraulic motors... but that is what had me wondering if I DID get rid of it.....someone would say "you dumbazz!!! You should have kept that (expensive) piece....you could have used it for (insert whatever use...) This is why I was asking now. Wondering what other (if any) uses might be had with the speed changer. That said... just got back with tractor, mowed some stuff in the rain and no problems. I'm still needing to adjust the height and work out some other details but, that's how life is..... put something together, fix issues A,B & C before you worry about X,Y & Z. Example, it can use new hoses unless you don't mind getting stabbed with the wires poking out... two new oil filters... you get the idea. Formatting pictures and they're coming.
  8. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    For clarity in case I was vague... 1. Mower is a pull behind, not 3-pt 2. Tractor is 1066 so have the 80 hp covered 3. They (factory) did tell me that some people use the mowers without the speed changer however, they were (according to Alamo) not getting full benefit from the mower since it wouldn't have been working at true speed. I also specifically asked about just mounting it to the 1000 pto and he said it wouldn't work. He didn't say why and I didn't keep asking. (I DO believe the shaft patterns are different but don't know that yet to be a fact) (shrugs shoulders).... just trying to fill in some gaps. I was trying to buy a HD bush hog (brand) but he wanted to sell tractor and mower combined. Tractor was an Allis Chalmers that had a documented defect in engine design where the front (rear?) bearing would go bad so they designed a "bra" to mount to the front pulley (crank) to keep the crank from creeping forward/backward. For what I paid (mower specifically), if I dumped it on the trash heap I'd not be out too much. Heck, my portfolio moves up (and down) more than what I paid on any given day... so I'm ok with the price. It's ugly (and I don't care) so as long as it approaches grass that is long and leaves the area with the grass shorter than when it came, I'm good with it!
  9. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    Found this: NOTE: This Speed Changer has a Cast Steel Housing, It has a 4:1 gear ratio, (540 RPM) and 1:2 gear ratio (1000 RPM)a 72 tooth gear Input (item # 3) and a 18 tooth output (item # 2)
  10. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    As a side comment, they also have a different input gear that would mount to the 1000 pto. This would require a different mated gear to get the correct ratio. I have no idea if using the 1000 pto (with appropriate mated gear) keeps this as a 4x multipler or if the final drive ratio is different. So the speed changer can be mounted to either 1000 or 540 pto, depending on which internal gears are in it.
  11. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    I don't know but I'd speculate the answer is no. Without knowing the proper names.... the PTO slides into let's say, a hole in an 8" gear. That 8" gear then has a 2" gear riding on it and through that gear ratio, multiplies the 2" gear to four times (4x) the pto speed. The pump is driven by the 2" gear. Since the 2" gear is directly mounted to the teeth of the 8", it should turn opposite the 8". Just found some diagrams... Interesting that I've seen this call a speed increaser.....and here, they call it the speed changer. Turns out the diagrams are PDF's and can't be uploaded here. I was right, the pto goes into an 8" gear (don't know the size, just using it for reference) and that gear runs a 2" gear that the pump then mounts to. It would also work in reverse if you had the appropriate situation and work as a speed reducer (obviously not in this tractor/pto world) None the less... it's interesting reading some of thoughts here. I have used this mower and it absolutely rips and shreds everything presented to it. Yeah, it's like 20 years old so it needs some tidbits fixed but that would apply to near any mower that's 20 years old. Tis ok though.... I've certainly been wrong before and I only used it for about 20 minutes (waist high growth in field). It will get longer use here but since our fields are already mowed, they'll be knee high in the spring when I cut things. I was just curious about the generator.... I don't own one yet so was just thinking about other uses for the speed changer or, if it's really just a one trick pony. Being a one trick pony is ok since this tractor will essentially be a dedicated lawn mower. I wouldn't want to put this stuff on/off repeatedly AND.... since everything we have on the property is Cat I, I/we'll just keep using the 444 for that stuff. Wonder why PDF files are disallowed.
  12. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    If you mean the increaser.... it simply bolts on/off. Plate bolts to the tractor, increaser bolts to the plate and the pump bolts to the increaser. All can be undone AND, he's got holes around both PTO's where if I needed to do something, I could remove the pump/increaser but, leave the plate on and still have usable access to either pto. If timing allows, I'll finally have all this home today (need to see if wife has time to take me to his shop on her way to work) I'll try to get a picture of it. I also wanted to ask about moving my rears out but given the different axles, thought I'd show what I have so I don't butcher the description of them. So.....more to come!
  13. Coytee

    Other Speed increaser uses?

    I've got this 15' hydraulic flexwing mower (Terrain King, now owned by Alamo so it would be similar to the Alamo 15' hydraulic) The unit has a speed increaser bolted to the back end of the tractor and plugs into the 540 pto. It multiplies the RPM's 4x and then the hydraulic pump gets mounted to the increaser. My question is.... a generator for example.... If I had a PTO powered generator (which I don't), would it be a workable solution to mount it to the increaser (presuming splines match or could be adapted)? My logic would be, I could get full power out of the generator using 1/4 rpm's. To reword my question.... is the increaser an asset that could be used on anything else other than the mower that it's going to be attached to?
  14. Here's a risky question for you... (risky for me to ask, showing my ignorance!!) First, I TOTALLY understand not wanting to reuse any kind of oil.... be it engine or hydraulic... That said, the 1066 is full of ??? fluid. I have zero idea. So, I'm going to change it out, probably in spring. (it won't get used much if at all over winter) I'll probably get the old stuff analyzed to see what they say. My question is, if it's trash, fine.....I'll get rid of it. What if however, they come back saying it's still fine for use (having never had oil analyzed, I have no idea what the reports say). But, if it's "fine for use", then what if I do one or both of the following: 1. The 444 we have leaks like a sieve. It's not my tractor so I'm not going to dump cash into it to fix it. It belongs to my wife's cousin who lives next door. I DO however, use it more than most here because I keep certain fields cut with it and nobody else does. So since it's "oil in.....and oil out"... what if I put the 'mystery oil' from the 1066 in there instead of just dumping the stuff (remember, I predicated this on the report saying it was still fine for use) 2. Use the mystery oil to top off the hydraulic mower instead of going out to buy yet more oil for it. My logic is, if this mystery oil is indeed a hydraulic / transmission type fluid, then I'd wonder if it would be perfectly fine for use in the mower. Anyone care to bombard me with humiliating comments as to how dumb this idea is??? You're free to punch away!!
  15. Spoke with my local 'Mr. Fixit' and looks like the tractor/mower is ready to pick up. He's welded the (non-existent) jack-stand to the mower so it can be held at height instead of laying on the ground. He machined a 1/2" steel plate to mount to the PTO section of the tractor with (supposedly) large enough cutouts in it where the plate can stay mounted and still be able to use either PTO. He said the mower (which had a leak in it that he fixed) is low on fluid.... but...went on to also say that when he engaged it, the blades really ripped around, thanks to the speed increaser that's bolted to the PTO. I called Terrain King (Alamo) to see what fluid they use and he said he needs the serial number. I didn't look for it before dropping it off and it's not here to try to look so I'm just seeing if anyone has any experience with what type of hydraulic fluid to use for the mower? The guy at Alamo said depending on serial number, they used hydraulic fluid.... and also used motor oil (which I thought was interesting). My fixit guy says it's hydraulic fluid in there but it seems there are many choices. simple hydraulic fluid at Co-op?? Maybe a straight 30 weight? I realize these may not be in everyone's back yard.... When I get it back home, I'll have to try to find the serial number.