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  1. 3 hours ago, Drysleeves said:

    Interesting article. Intriguing what Thomas Jefferson said in 1824…… after being a country just under half a century. 
     

    A 1972 IH film states that there had been more advancements in agriculture in the last 140 years than in all prerecorded history. But think about what all has happened in the last 50 years. 

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  2. I just missed it to post here but Cyrus Hall McCormick would have turned 215 years old. Thought it might have been of some interest here. Would have been quite a sight to see the reaper at work and cutting grain back in July 1831 since it was something never seen before. 

    Largely thanks to him we now have what was known as the International Harvester Company. 
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  3. On 2/7/2024 at 12:26 AM, 766 Man said:

      We had a L also a 1974 which was bought used in 1978.  The trouble was it was quite worn despite the age so not many fond memories of it.  An area IH dealer sent a 3388 around to demo and we got our turn pulling an Oliver plow over 5 acres.  Did not buy it and nobody that I recall had a 2+2.  Had they come out a couple years earlier there might have been some around while the times were better.    

    I think the L was a fairly decent machine. I know the L2 was good. I did read the other day for an old dealer that the first year of the L (1972) they were not very good and the G which ended production that year was the machine to have. Great-Grandpa bought his new in June 1974 with the 24 ft grain head which replaced a G. 

    Dad was nine in 1979 and he has the little foldout pamphlet brochure introducing the 33 and 3588’s. Which the cover is with one of those models pulling a disk out the IH Photographic Center with the grain bins in the background. It has our local dealers stamp on the back. As I recall talking with the brother of our local IH dealer they didn’t sell a ton of 2+2’s.

     

  4. I might have shared this picture on the fourm before. This is my great-grandpa’s place in the Late 70’s early 80’s as near as anyone can tell. He would have had irrigated corn, sugar beets, and alfalfa. Plus hogs and cattle. My grandpa would have been helping and together they had a JD 4010, 4320, and possibly a 4630. I remember the 4630. At one time grandpa had 2.  

    By comparison here is the same farm in the late 50’s looking west. The newer photo is looking east.

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  5. 7 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

    All the money was being made on livestock in those days (around this area of the Midwest anyhow).  Excess grain was sold in the fall but it was not uncommon to have your entire crop go into the feed grinder. Grain bins were being built to store grain for livestock feed grinding, not playing the market. Most farms here hauled with wagons. There were a few single axle grain trucks around. There was a local “pork producers” club that was much like farm bureau. Our town festival every summer was “Pork Day USA”. Every farm here has at least a few hogs. Some outside on dirt and others in houses. No factory farms like you see today. We have one independent pork producing farm left in our county now. Otherwise there probably isn’t over 10 hogs on a farm anywhere. One or two contract hog farmers but that’s it. 
     

    As for the new equipment, that 1086 is the only new tractor my Grandfather ever bought. He told me in reference to that 10, “I never had anything nice before. I had the money and needed a tractor so I bought it.”  He passed away a few years ago at over 90 yrs old. He saw hard times and war in Europe during WW2. All the money made was put into the farm and nothing was bought unless the money was there to pay for it. 

     

    2 hours ago, iowaboy1965 said:

    Dad had 40, give or take, pure bred Charolais cattle. He sold replacement stock as well as fat cattle. Forgot to double check with mom how many fat hogs we were selling a year but I'm thinking 5 to 600.....actually was thinking more that....

    The home place was 320 and the south place was 200 

    Mom and dad bought the south place as they were contemplating going out on their own. Then my grandfather on dad's side passed in 67 and they ended up buying what I consider the home place. At least for me growing up it was. Granddad bought the place sometime between ww2 and 1955 ish. Not sure on that. One of dad's older brothers lived there till my parents moved there. I wasn't around yet. So 63, 64 maybe. 

    In your guys neck of the woods corn, hogs, and cattle would be top commodities I would guess. I didn’t realize even back then still a good portion or all the grain went to the livestock and stayed on the farm….. even with as much is grown in the corn belt. 

    Like your areas I’d say back then most if not all farms here had livestock of some type. By the ‘70’s my guess was cattle, hogs, sheep in that order. Both my great-grandfathers had livestock. The one that dryland farmed had cattle then switched to just hogs. I think by 1976 hogs were gone. They moved off the farm in February 1980. The other great-grandpa that farmed row crop irrigated had sheep then hogs then cattle. He was five years old when his family moved to the farm where he lived the rest of his life. That was 1927. They had 240 acres when they bought it. Up until the 40’s at least they had 5-6,000 sheep they would feed out at a time. In the late 40’s early 50’s I’d guess, they went to cattle. Grandpa was born in ‘52 and doesn’t remember sheep. By 1979 they still had cattle and probably some hogs. I’d guess they started raising hogs with cattle in the 60’s.

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  6. 13 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

    Grandpa bought a 1978 IH 1086 brand new that was delivered March 14, 1979. He also built a pole barn in 79’. The late 70’s were a profitable time farming here from what I’m told. Uncle and Grandpa farmed together. Uncle had hogs and Grandpa had cattle and some sheep. Grandma had 100+ chickens and sold eggs to the entire neighborhood. Most all of the grain fed livestock. Dad left the farm, paid his way through college, and was about a year out of Vet school and still had his own cattle that Grandpa took care of when he was away at school.  Great Grandpa passed away in 79’.  

    Day before my birthday. Sounds like your area was quite profitable and diverse then. Would have been neat to see for sure. I can only imagine the look of faces of dads, grandpas, great-grandpas when they got a new piece of machinery. 

    That’s one thing I forgot to mention in my op. What buildings and structures were going up on farms then. 

  7. 5 hours ago, 766 Man said:

      Mom and Dad had a fairly good marriage so that was not the root of my problems.  I learned as I got older that mom had more the wisdom and dad had more the drive when it came to farming.  Grandma felt the need to rigidly control things and that rubbed off on her boys so that is the root of the problem in my case.  I'll always remember the number 1,100 as it was the dollar value of the rent of her ground to dad.  Something that she reminded me of on nearly a daily basis especially if dad was not on time with it.  I would also like to say do not let everything rest with a will unless it has provisions for a person while living.  I heard constantly of people kicking the can down the road in terms of real long term planning.  Not an easy subject to handle as it means somebody is forced to look at their mortality far sooner than they want to.  But if you are serious about wanting the family name on the mail box long after you are gone you are going to have to think about getting serious about the next generation or beyond in control that all outside parties recognize.  

    By not growing up on a farm but always being around Ag and since majoring in Ag business in college I have learned that farm succession….. really any succession is a serious deal that shouldn’t be taken lightly. If not there can be a lot of issues. Had a professor last semester that has had his own Attorney practice for 40 years. It was an Ag Law class and we talked about succession and what can happen if people do not plan. Also being involved with Collegiate Farm Bureau and going to conferences that is another place where I have learned about succession. Lots of horror stories out there. My understanding is designating assets to concerned parties in a farm operation or business is basically essential if there is any desire for the enterprise to continue. No it’s not fun to talk about but it’s better than lawsuits and other issues between family members.

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  8. Found a couple interesting videos on YouTube. The first is a Georgia Tractorcade from 1977. Looks like the lead tractor is a 86 4wd like in the picture I showed earlier in the thread. Lots of JD 30/40 series Deere 4wds. The other is a news segment from 1979. The one guy speaking was the Wagon-master for the AAM who drove the 1486 I shared above. @Big Bud guy they did mention how some farmers were sponsored by farm equipment manufacturers.

     

     

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  9. 1 hour ago, Lars (midessa) said:

    Family farm was sold in 1969. Mom(city girl, dads 2nd marriage)told Dad, no way did she want her kids to be farmers. Grandpa told Dad years later, if he would have known his grandsons wanted to farm(myself and brother were working for neighbors), he never would have sold the farm.

    I’ve always wanted to farm. It’s hard to get into. I wish I would have been older at the time my grandparents moved off the farm. I was only 5 then. 

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  10. On my last thread about the Tractorcade several post were made about what tractors their family had that year. Someone said it was interesting to see what everyone had  so I thought, why don’t we have a more dedicated post to draw a little more response. I know several already posted but this thread can really be about anything. Tractors, trucks, pickups, equipment, crops, livestock whatever you’d like to contribute that would have been on the farm. Even pictures since we all like them so much. 

    I don’t really have a lot to contribute because one, that was before my time. But I did have two great-grandpas that were farming then. My grandpa would have just started out on his own then. Here are a couple home videos of the one that was a dryland farmer. The first video is from 1979. It is not the tractor he had, he did have a 1974 4166. IIRC this tractor was leased and I believe this is my great uncle in the 4586. The second is from 1980 wheat harvest right on the farm. First is the Gleaner L2 they bought in 1977 and the other is the Gleaner L they bought in 1974. Both have 24 ft headers. 

    A question I do have, in ‘79 new equipment like the N Series Gleaners and IH 2+2 were brand new. Does anyone know anyone who had one or remember them new in your area in the ‘79-‘80 timeframe? 

     

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  11. Listened to his debut Toby Kieth album a little while ago. A lot of good songs on that one. He was a legend….. great singer and songwriter, and a great person. 

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  12. 32 minutes ago, FoxrunFarms02 said:

    Yeah. I beleive Iowa pbs? It was like an 8 part series on YouTube. They interviewed 4 or 5 families. I think they really did a nice job on it.

    Yea this one I found and it was a hour and a half. It was probably done in the 2008-2010 timeframe. 

    22 minutes ago, FoxrunFarms02 said:

    Driving my b 5 miles up the road was a long enough haul for me.

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    here's a popper that didn't make it back. 

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    Sadly an H too.

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    Happy, TX is only 20 minutes from where I’m going to school. 

    I wonder why the purpose of the burning tractors was? 

  13. 37 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

    Looking at this pic I wasn't aware JD and IH sponsored the tractorcade unless it was just local dealers sponsoring their customers.  Looks like a 30 or 40 series 4x4 too behind the IH.  30 series 4 wheel drives came out in the fall of 74'.  Hate to say it but I don't know how anybody can feel sympathy for someone able to afford one of those 

    My thoughts were the same. Those were quite the tractors to have for the time. Even if those were early production models would it have been early enough in the 70’s for the bank to still be willing to borrow to the farmer before everything went south? If that makes sense what I’m asking. 

  14. Since going to college in the Texas Panhandle, I went south this last November with a college friend where his family farms cotton. So I got to see cotton harvest for the first time. In Lubbock, Texas the FiberMax Museum has a display of the Tractorcade. They have the original 1486 driven by the AAM Wagon-master who was from Hereford Tx. It is in fact the original after doing some research on it. If you ever get a chance and go through Lubbock it’s a great Ag Museum!

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  15. 44 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

    Yes.  Even the oldest 30 series would have been 6-7 years old which is still new in my book .  I think there are some 86 series as well???  We didn't have a leg to stand on protesting.  We bought a Versatile 950 March of 79'.

    LOTS of 86 Series tractors. I even found one of an 86 series 4wd. 

    There will be a Part II article in Heritage Iron in the March/April Issue. At the end of Part I they said there was a guy that drove a JD G 1800 miles. Now that is a LONG drive! 

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  16. 3 hours ago, Drysleeves said:

    86 Series. Optional from the start and then standard for 1978. Retrofitting was highly encouraged back to 1971.

    I did not know it was offered that early. Might have started to come into the picture when the new 400 series diesels came out in ‘71?  

  17. 2 hours ago, FoxrunFarms02 said:

    Was born in the late 80's so too young to recall anything but as I got older I heard stories and read more on the crisis. Looking at pictures I noticed the tractors were pretty new, and wondered how the farmers could just up and leave the farm or if they were struggling how could they justify fuel to drive? I recently watched a documentary on the farm crisis and they mentioned that it was bigger farmers involved and it wasn't as big as the news made it sound to be. The average Joe farmer was doing chores, looking for work or loading up their rifle..........

    Was it the documentary from PBS? We watched it in a farm and ranch management class I took a couple years ago. Just watched it again this weekend. I think it’s a good source of info. 

     

    3 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

    Thought it was a dumb thing overall.  And I like how they protested with tractors that were new or almost new. 

    If you look at pictures from google you notice some 40 series JD’s. They would have only been a year old if that during February 1979. 

  18. Today is 45 years since farmers and their tractors from all over the country entered D.C to Lobby to Congress and the Carter Administration about Agriculture, poor policies, and economics at the time. Heritage Iron has a great article about the AAM Tractorcade in their January/February 2024 issue. 

    I’ve been quite fascinated by the event and have been doing some research on it. I was curious if any of you were apart of the event in January/February/March 1979 or if any of you had relatives that drove a tractor, or even apart of the AAM. I’m sure many of you remember it happening if you were alive at an age old enough to remember then. I was not so I thought it would be interesting to hear any stories. 

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  19. 3 hours ago, DT Fan said:

    I really wish I could remember the story, it's just stupid in my mind. Just CAN NOT believe they robbed parts off this tractor!!!!!

    Was it a story along the lines of they took the original 12 hole centers off for another tractor that needed them? That was one thing I read. 

  20. 4 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

    There was at least 6 or 7 that survived into the 90s.  Some of them might have changed names by then.  

    That was one source I saw that on…… about three of the remaining dealers. Figured you would have an idea what happened. Thanks for the info.

  21. 15 hours ago, hardtail said:

    What was the 13 Montana dealers purchase part of the story?

     

    4 hours ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

    Wow! It's the farmers version of the five man Cadillac! :lol::lol::lol:

    Mike

    My apologies for not adding a little detail to the story about after the dealerships bought it. I think it was by the mid-1990’s only 3 of the original 13 dealers were still in business and they donated it to the Ft. Benton Ag Museum in Ft. Benton Montana where it is today. 

  22. 1 hour ago, FoxrunFarms02 said:

    I feel bad for my son, or anyone young in this era that dealerships dont have much for toys. Growing up in the 90's dealerships would have an ertl set  built on display and a whole section of the show room  of just toys. Going on a parts run with my parents I'd pick out a toy that was just a few dollars or if my parents bought something new the sales guy got a replica of it and gave it to me. Now it's almost just like a bookshelf behind literature rack and that's it. Fleet Farm, Farm and Fleet, Shopko, K mart, Walmart all had farm toys and ertl play sets. In the 2000's I really got big into collecting and seemed like JD was as bad as Harley Davidson with their name on every little thing I'm shocked some people even knew there was something other than JD tractors.

    My first IH that I know of was an IH 756 Custom with a Year-Round Cab and I got that Christmas 2001 when I was 9 months old so I knew about other colors but always took to JD. The Case IH dealer in Lubbock, TX when I visited there back in November had way more toys than I had seen in a dealer for a LONG time. Times are different. Just make sure you play with your son and help him set up displays to keep him interested and show him to take care of his toys now. That’s what I always did. 

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