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  1. Farmall Hs or Ms above P.T.O.shield mounted toolbox ?

    The original H and M tool boxes were on the seat support frame. Parts 6 and 23 respectively were the tool boxes. First figure is 1940 seat and second figure is 1940 onwards
  2. Farmall Hs or Ms above P.T.O.shield mounted toolbox ?

    The standard Farmall H and M tool boxes were attached to the top of the seat pipe. The tool box with IHC on sounds more like a reaper-binder tool box. The W-4 and W-6 tractors had an open-top tool-box on top of the transmission under the tank behind the belt pulley.
  3. W series tractor lineage

    You will note that the U-4 engine was the same as the W-4, I-4 so assume that the U followed the W and T series convention, similarly for the U-6 and U-9. The Farmall A was smaller than the W-4 but would pull a single furrow plow (2 horses) so U-2 made sense and the Cub engine was even smaller so U-1 would fit.
  4. W series tractor lineage

    The W => wheel tractor, T => Tractractor (crawler), F => Farmall. O=> Orchard, I=> Industrial Prewar, the number used by IHC indicated horsepower (10-20 implied 10 HP on the drawbar and 20 HP on the belt, actually about 23 HP and the W-12 implied 12 HP on the belt, actually about 14 HP). The numbers used by IHC were usually conservative. This was because of the chaos shown in claimed horsepower by manufacturers prior to 1920 which led to many states requiring tests to show horsepower. Nebraska was the first state to get a system running and the other states then decided to accept the University of Nebraska test results. One needs to read the rules about tractor advertising set out in the Nebraska test rules.
  5. W series tractor lineage

    My understanding is that the Farmall H replaced both the Farmall F-20 and the F-14, Both the F-20 and F-12/14 were two row tractors and the F-30 could handle 4 rows. The Faemall H gad the power of the F-20 for plowing or belt work and the weight/size and layout of the F-12/14. The Farmall M replaced the Farmall F-30 but again copied the layout of the F-12/14. Prior to the letter series there were cultivating implements on 3 sizes as the F-12, F-20 and F-30 all had different wheel-bases and different attachment points. With the letter series both the H and M had the same wheel base so most implements were labelled H/M as they would fit either tractor. the big implements that would reuire the power of the M were labelled M. The W-4 replaced both W-12/14 and 10-20, smaller that a 10-20 but with same power and slightly longer and heavier than a W-14 (66 inch wheelbase versus 60 inch) with more power. It would, like the Farmall H pull 2 14" furrow plows which what was usually pulled by 4 horses where as the W-6 would pull 3 furrows (6 horses) but at higher speeds and all day. The W-4 and W-6 arrived in New Zealand by 1941 at least and the first WD-6 is in Christchurch and probably the second is here as well. See attached photograph as well as my 1941 W-4.
  6. Distallate/Gas differences

    Power kerosene is not the same as distillate though they were equivalent fuels in different parts of the world. IH had different compression ratios for kerosene and distillate, see Farmall H, Farmall M, W-4 or W-6 parts books. They had different cylinder heads and valves. The Farmall A and B had different pistons. In the US prior to about 1939 kerosene was the standard tractor fuel, then the cheaper distillate (lefty over from distillation process) took over. In the 1910-1920 kerosene was the main fuel, gasoline was almost a waste product (solved by the growth in use of the automobile) and much was tipped into river. One large river fire in the US (Ohio I think) was caused by gasoline etc tipped into the river. If one reads any of the IHC tractor manuals of the 1910s, 1920 or 1930s kerosene was the fuel and it was not until the 1930s with the F-12 etc that you see provision for gasoline only engines.
  7. Distallate/Gas differences

    The difference in the letter series tractors between distillate and kerosene is the compression ration, kerosene engines have a lower compression ratio than distillate (4.4 to 1 vs 4.6 to 1). In Farmall H,M and W series tractors different cylinder heads and valves, whereas for the Farmall A and B different pistons were used to get the different compression ratios. All the other bits, the starting tank, radiator shutters, hot manifold were the same for both distillate or kerosene fuels. After about 1939 I think distillate was the normal choice in the USA with kerosene normal outside the USA. Before 1939 I believe kerosene was the normal tractor fuel though straight gasoline (probably 60 octane) was an option on the Farmall F-12, O-12, Fairway-12 tractors.
  8. spliting stand questions

    The splitting stands designed for the Farmall A and Farmall B should work. They were covered in one of the IHC manuals for Farmall A maintenance. I had a set made for my Super A as a retirement present.
  9. About drinking raw milk

    I thought the real reason was to prevent Tuberculosis spreading (going back to Pasteur)
  10. Headlights in the way of pulley Belt on W-series ?

    My earlier reply had to be cut short as my keyboard would provide a 'v'. All the early letter series tractors came to NZ in war-time conditions, the only accessory was generally a PTO, no belt pulleys, no lights, no starters and later on after the US entered the war no rubber tyres. So the problem with belt pulleys and lights on the W-4, W-6 and W-9 did not manifest itself here untll after 1945. After the war the demand for belt pulley operation was much less, the hay-presses had gone, replaced by the baler, the tin-mill (American style steel threshing machines vs English Wooden mills) had been replaced by the combine harvester, the chaff-cutter was less important as the horses had largely gone and about the only thing that a farmer would need the belt was for the saw-bench for cutting firewood. During the war, my father had to use the old 10-20 as our 1940 (1939) Farmall M did not have the belt pulley I have never seen a W series or I series tractor with the lights mounted under the frame as positioned for the O-4 and O-6. they would be too low to be useful in longish grass and easily damaged the way some farmers drove into things. It was not a good aspect of IHC design which was not corrected until the lights were re-positioned near the top of the grill in 1949. Other similar design faults can be seen in the Farmall A or Super A, ever try to change the battery and the fun in relining the brakes on Farmalls A, B and Cub. Obviously not thought to be necessary within the life of the tractor. My 1941 W-4 did not have lights or belt pulley but found the bits from various sources, It had a starter and brackets for the generator but the battery had never been mounted on the frame as the corks were still in the holes for the battery mount. At some point the whole tractor had been painted white over the red. There was no trace of galvanizing on the wheel rims, I believe that the galvanized drop-centre rims came in about 1943. The tractor is painted according the IHC paint committee decision, all red. I have a copy of the IHC 1940 paint card (Wisconsin Historical Society) and local paint company has made the paint (and recorded the mix formula) for both the automotive enamel that I brushed on the tractor and for the two-pot paint for the panel-beaters (body shop) who painted the tank, grill, hood and fenders.
  11. Headlights in the way of pulley Belt on W-series ?

    The light bracket has two key-hole shaped holes for the attachment bolts. The narrow part of the key-hole is wide enough for the shank og the cap-screw whilst the large part of the hole will clear the head of the cap-screw. All one has to do is loosen the cap-screws lift the bracket up slightly then lift it off the cap-screws, it can be turned around and re-hung on the cap-screws.
  12. Distillate & Kerosene to Gasoline Conversions (?)

    The Farmalls H and M and the W-4, W-6 and W-9 used different heads for the different fuels, the kerosene head had the lowest compression ratio 4.4:1. The Farmalla A and B and the earlier F-12, W-12, O12 engines used different pistons (distance from connecting-rod pin to top of piston varied). Before the letter series tractors in 1939/1940 the standard fuel was kerosene, with the letter series distillate was the standard fuel with higher octane gasoline appearing as an option about 1941. The low grade fuel tractors had a gasoline starting tank, a heat exchanging manifold and radiator shutters, though before the advent of the Pines Winterfront in 1937 radiator curtains were the standard means of keeping the radiator hot.
  13. Hand (crank) starting the H and 4-Series

    I do not like tine cans to cover exhaust pipe, too dangerous, if it lands on someone or on paint work. I use a polycarbonate jar that cam with yeast in it. fits top of pipe, is very light weight and has rounded corners so cannot hurt anybody or paint, also very cheap.
  14. Hand (crank) starting the H and 4-Series

    Apart from checking that the the tractor is in neutral, make sure that the fuel is on and the ignition switch is out. My 1941 W-4 does not like too much choke and once it statts it wants it off straight away. I only ever pull up from 6 o'clock, the H-4 magnetos do not have a spark return, apart from the impulse coupling. I had a good kickback on the Super A and since have been careful with H-4 magneto fitted tractors. The F-4 magneto on my O-12 starts with the the magneto set about half way between shorted and full advance so kickback is pretty unlikely.
  15. Old Abe Restoration Correct Colors?

    This is the one in New Zealand owned by Case New Holland. For over 12 years it was in the custodianship of the Case and Vintage Farm Machinery Club of New Zealand.
  16. IH Golf 12 ???

    The Fairway 12 is an early style O-12 with I-12 (industrial) brakes. They never got the changes in 1936-37 that produced the Modified O-12 (longer front axle with 600x16 tyres. side hinged seat and foot operated brakes). The standard version was on 8 inch wide 22 inch diameter front wheels and 16 inch wide 40 inch diameter rear wheels with very small spike lugs. Pneumatic tyres were an option whereas they were standard on the O-12. The 12 series tractors had internal expanding brakes on the differential shaft while the I-12 and Fairway 12 had LARGE internal expanding brakes in drums on the rear wheels. With a large roller on behind the big brakes would be needed. However, the brakes on my O-12 will happily stall the engine.
  17. 1939 farmall rims

    Matt above referred to an early W-4 with 3 piece rims. I have a 1941 W-4 with the 3 piece 24 inch rims. The first WD-6 (WDBK-516) in the background of the photograph also has the 24 inch 3 piece rims
  18. 1939 farmall rims

    Early Farmalls H and M had 36 inch split rims. Here is a photograph of the one my grandfather bought in early 1940 (could have been shipped from US in 1939 as it took a while to arrive in NZ
  19. Why/where are the other countries?

    Another from New Zealand. (at present in Denmark, just been in Iceland and Norway)
  20. W4 Cast Wheel Removal

    One wheel was a bit sloppy but the other defied all attempts of removal. Set large steel angle pulling fram plus heat to NO avail. In the end took of whole axle housing with bearings and axle to a machine shop who used a 10 ton press to get the wheel off.
  21. farmall cast iron seat

    All the 1920 and 1930s IHC tractors had the pressed steel MB488B seat (also found on mowers and binders). The later 1930s Farmalls switched to the M22967 pressed steel seat. There were earlier cast McCormick and Deering seats but they do not seemed to be used much on tractors. My 1918 Titan 10-20 owners manual shows a 2933Tseat but a later 1920s version shows a M488 seat.
  22. Tire Pressure Info in W-4 Operators Manual

    I suspect that IHC just copied the table form that used by the Farmall H etc. where dual narrow tyres were at option. My Farmall A and W-4 manuals both have the same table and I am not aware of examples of a Farmall A with dual wheels on the back,
  23. Family's First Tractor

    The 52 combine could have either the Continental y69, for the early combines the only choice as the Cub did not come out until 1947, the U-1 (C-60 Cub engine) was a later option. PTO drive was standard but required a bigger tractor than a Farmall A or B to run it, hence engine option. The $@ was PTO only and designed to be run with a Farmall A or B. A Farmall H or W-4 would easily run the 42. If the picture is 1941, then only a 42 combine. I thought that the steel wheels were a war-time option and fo the USA wasn't quite war-time yet.
  24. Family's First Tractor

    It has to be a 42 combine as the 52 was not made before about 1944. It appears to have the steel wheels not the 6.00x16 wheels, I have never seen a photograph of a 42 combine without the normal pneumatic tyres.
  25. Splitting stands

    There are drawing for Farmall A and B splitting stands in the IH maintenance book for the Farmall A, Farmall B and the U-2 engine. very good stand, I had one m ade for my Super -A