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  1. Guys,

    Some progress on the old TD6. Its home! My neighbor was so kind as to take his trailer over to my daughter and bring the dozer home. I had him load it. He had his hands full since he is used to stuff that actually responds:) He did a nice job loading and unloading it. I did get some pictures that I will be sharing in the next day or so. Made my first attempt at a repair before it got dark. I noticed a diesel fuel leak from going into the side of the engine. Had to make a custom tool from a old wrench but it seemed to stop the leak.

    Since the machine will be outside this winter it will get tarped soon. Will give me some time to plan what I want to do with this unit.

    It had not been started in several months, and I was suprized it fired up pretty easy.



  2. Kevin,

    I think you hit it. Tinkering and lube! This machine has such a large ammount of dirt/ oil/ grease covering everything. On one hand it is a protective covering. On the other it may be impeading operation! Hope to get this home in a month. If it is closer to the tools it may get some attention.

    I was considering taking the loader off and just havinging the cralwer unit any thoughts? There are many areas wher it has been repaired.

    Anyone out there looking at TD6's????



  3. Guys that commented about moving and steering these. Thank You very much!

    I worked hours on old farm equipment, and definetly understand that these machines are not the joystick air conditioned rides of today. I just never ran a dirt mover, so I am not a good judge of what is the correct feel. But I really like monkeing with old equipment.

    Here are pictures of the 1950 Allis WD's I have. These were owned by the same uncle that had the TD6. This WD was VERY worn out, but the engine was in pretty good shape. (ran good)


    This is a WD he owned also, Was my dad and moms prior. Just a well used tractor with a good running engine.


    Here are the same tractors.



    Picture of the TD6 cockpit.


    I did get the TD6 running again the other day. ( I had run it out of fuel. It gets a little easier each time. Put in 5 gallon of diesel, opened the top vent on the primary ( I think) filter, until fuel and air came out. Started the engine on gas, bled each of the injectors a little till the air bubbles stopped. And it ran ok on diesel in a minute or so.

    Current starting technique is to stand next to the TD6 on the left hand side. Reach into the cockpit, check for neutral, check for clutch disengaged. Flip on the key, Pull the gas lever down, ( it does not stay locked?) Grab a 2 foot piece of pipe to use as a lever against the starter switch. (the starting feature, handle in the cockpit does not engage the starter properly) Engine starts up very well on gas. Let it run a minute for warm up, Slowly release gas lever with right hand while pulling the diesel handle forward.

    I moved the machine a few feet and checked the steering clutches and brakes as I made a gentle u turn. Trying to get a better feel for the workings. We threw a track once I dont want to be to rough on it until I can check some of the track adjustments. And I know they are well worn at best.



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  4. Adjust the brakes and clutches, makes a world of difference. The less busy you are the better,let the machine work. You will be s lot less tired when you get off. An old bucket seat without the track on the bottom will fit right in between the armrests.

    Arm rests? We have no armrests:)

    I have talked to the neighbor and he is going to haul the TD6 home for me.



  5. Not a TD6 expert by any means but i'm 99.9% sure there are no " hand steering brakes" the steer levers just release the clutch, the petals apply the turning brakes. So yes, turning would be sluggish using only the levers.


    You folks have forgot more about dozers than I will ever know! Thanks for the comments! I will look at the book again. I did a little reading about adjusting the hand levers. Shows a four inch movement in the book at correct adjustment. Well there have about a 24 inch movement now, so there may be some problems lurking inside this machine? There was something about turning with the levers. And if you wanted a hard pivot you used the brake pedal. More to learn. Its one thing to learn on a machine as it was new, compared to learning on a machine that is very worn!

    Is there spell check on here some where? I am the worlds worst speller!



  6. Chris, im no expert and learning as i go myself. But as you don't have any replies , i will suggest yes by the book adjustment of the clutches and brakes will make a difference. When running my 14, i will pull a clutch handle in preparation to stomp a brake pedal to get turned. It is no dainty process, and after first few days i was elbow and leg sore :D

    I am not sure how my Uncle worked inside this cockpit? He was 6 foot and 180 ( I am 6'2 and 210). and this machine is built for a small very quick moving 5 handed person:) After 4 hours on the TD6, I was beat to a pulp! And had a bad case of numb butt from the old wooden crate for a seat. I did move some dirt though, and now I thik I want to bring it home to play with it a little more:) I am still pulling levers, stopming on pedals ,and learning! I have to get over to it tomorrow and try to get it started again.



  7. Couple more things

    I found a picture of the TD6 It is labled in the lower left corner "L-TD-6W #274"

    The color of the picture is kind of sepia in color. It also has notes in the upper left corner.




    3. SCARIFIER ATTACHMEN IN CARRY POSITION (Not sure this came with the machine?)


    The loader has decal ATECO on the bucket and side of operators station.

    Back on these brakes, is it worth while for me to try to adjust the steering lever linkage length? And or the brake linkage length?



  8. Guys,

    I had a chance to spend some quality time with the TD6.

    Charged up the battery.

    filled the gas tank, and then the brain gave out and I forgot that you need to pull down the lever to get gas to flow. I did get the screen cleaned out in the gas line into the carb as I was checking things.

    Once I had gas the engine fired right up.

    And started running on diesel right away.

    I moved some dirt and did not run the tracks off.

    Steering is very sluggish to poor but I am not a good judge. The brakes for steering both worked but have issues as they dont react quickly.

    I did enough work that it got well warmed up!

    I got warmed up too.



  9. Magicmikey,

    Thanks, I may have to get in touch with Doug.

    If this loader would hold together we have a lot of dirt that could be moved around a pond.

    But when the right track came off it scared the guy that was operating it and I dont have a clue as to where to start to make sure the tracks are adjusted as well as they could be.

    I dont need another money pit, but would put several hours into wrenching on it, if the results were positive. I am afraid its worn pretty bad in most areas!:)



  10. Guys,

    Thanks for the advice on people, clubs and dozers:). I understand, I have done tons for others, and organizations. You can get burnt and burnt out, with nothing done at home.

    Sorry I have been busy with our Maple Taste and Tour weekend and carwlers are low on the list.

    I was thinking about possibly removing the loader and frame work at some point? Just looking for some suggestions. I know the machine would not be much good for anything other than driving around or pulling something at that point. The loader is just so restrictive with the frame work in the seating area.

    And as a last thing after reviewing the dozer more this summer is that I may just decide to sell it? If so then I will advertise it on here.

    Hope things are good pushing dirt!



  11. Coffeecreek,

    Well that's too bad about the people thing.

    It takes all kinds to make a world and there all here!

    I figured you would know Dave G.

    Thanks for the brake information. I like to use McMacter-Carr also. Great place to get hardware and about anything. Plus you can get parts quick!

    Guess I need to get a avatar on here. Not sure I like the silhouette.



  12. I did a drive by and the IH dozer was still there. I really should get it home so I could play with it a little more. Maybe this spring.

    Killdozer, Thanks for the comments on the brakes.

    Coffeecreek, Are you invloved with the Sagertown show?



  13. Thanks Guys,

    Coffecreek I will try to keep that show in mind.

    I do belong to the PSGES. Looking forwrad to cleaning up a couple of the WD's for the July show.

    Thanks for the info on the brakes. that makes it sound a little easier:)

    Hope to set some taps tomorrow.

  14. IH Folks,

    Ok trying to figure out replying to multiple quotes on here. The forums can somedays be harder than working on the equipment.

    Well like i said, it did steer so thats a big battle avoided. Adjustments may be needed to make it a bit better but it will never be "easy" its all muscle power on this old stuff. Diagnosing why the track came off is going to require some more pics, looks more than tight enough, perhaps too tight sitting there to run just fine. The left one looks more properly tensioned, they are supposed to have a measure of droop to them and not be like a guitar string. Oh, and as soon as you get thawed out go start it up and steer a bit if you can. Moisture+ sitting = you having to pull the clutch packs when they seize up. Only preventative is to try to keep em dry and exercise them regularly.

    Thanks for letting me know it wont be easy to steer. I had that feeling. Looks like a man with four hands and a very strong back was required to run one of these machines. I need to move this up the work list and look at it when the weather breaks. I will eventually get some more pictures of the track adjusters. This maching needs several power washings to be able to get through the dirt and the grease. (My Uncle loved to weld and maintaine his own equipment. He got every thing he could out of this old girl.) I think he bought it used in 1954?

    I like! That's cute booger. Like others have said you are well ahead if it turns at all. Likely just needs some adjustments and possibly brake bands. I try to run mine every few months to prevent steering clutches from rusty up. Not fun to fix. I loose my tracks every now and then but so far they pop back on. I'm interested to see what fixes this. I know mine need a proper adjustment. I was able to get the right plugs at car quest. They seemed to help. I am going to get some new solid core plug wires next as I have read that resistor wire are not good on mags. I'm sure you will get lots more good advice here. Nice pics too.

    I dont have a clue about brake bands, but that sounds like a project down in the innards of this unit.

    How big of a job is that and are parts aviable for these machines.

    It started on the new plugs I think they might might be #386? Cant remember getting old.

    Albion Pa eh , interesting :D Does it steer when you step on the brake on that side while pulling the lever ? They don't steer well with out some brake .

    Standing on the brakes did not seem to help much. But I really did not move it much yet. Still learning. Yea we are from the great north PA region:)

    I enjoyed the pics, thanks. I like the box for a seat lol.

    Yea looks like we could use some upholstery work too.

    Thing with the mags is not so much the resistive wire, but that they don't kick out juice compared to what can be had with the later ignitions. The old mag coil doesn't have the same energy to work with. If it fires and starts easy, good to go.

    That left side does look excessive, but the right, not so bad. At least in the pictures.

    Scratching my head. I dont think this has a MAG. Almost sure I remember filing the points in the distributor when I did the tune up.

    Thanks guys for the comments. I will dig around for some more pictures of the TD6.

    On a related note I have the grease tank that came with it. Small maybe 4-5 gallon unit, Red with IH on the side and has a hose and a pump handle.

    Maybe out for a while as our Maple syrup season is going to be starting this week. Lots to do!

  15. Scooter,

    Since I am not a dozer operator and this was the first time moving one of these I am sure I am not a very good judge. Seems like you had to pull the sterring levers about back to you to get it to steer.

    My daughters boyfriend ran the track off the right side. We knew they we pretty loose.

    I do have a manual that came with it.

    Right now its aging under about 2 feet of snow. Which in hind site I should have tarped it last fall:)

    I am sure of one thing the battery charger in the one photo was no match for the dozer, I forgot to unhook it and ran over it:) Flat as a pancake.

    Lift went up and down, seems to have leaks around the cylinders.

    I did a farmers tune up on it.

    I put in the plugs shown, new plug wires. Cleaned the points. And once I had it fired up on gas I was pretty sure it would run on diesel. Just had to prime the filters and lines. A little coaxing and it switched over to diesel as the manual described. Kind of tricky but with help from a friend we got it running well enough to get it loaded, and unloaded.

  16. Hi,

    I am a new member to the forum. Thanks for having me.

    I now have a TD6 dozer loader in the family that has been very well used. My Uncle used it in his sand and gravel business in the 50's and 60's. I got it started last spring and have moved it to my daughters property where it has sat most of the time.

    I joined the forum to learn more about this machine and to decide what I want to do with it in the future.

    Here are some pictures. its pretty rough and has lots of welding done on it. Tracks are very loose and the sterring doesnt seem to work very well.










    I changed the plugs but had not found the extend ones.


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