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    Maple syrup, Bees, IH dozer, IH Cub Cadets, Allis Chalmers and Ford Tractors

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  1. sugarmaker

    TD18 at Steam Show

    Its Steam show time again. July 20, 21 and 22. The blade went back on the TD18 today and it got moved up on the hill! I may get a chance to take it in the parade or just take it for a spin in the dirt! The process has started to make one better tractor from 2 units. http://pioneersteamandgas.com/Media/PSGESBigShow2018%20Email.mp4 Regards, Chris
  2. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Kevin, Thanks! Number is slightly different, but I will try to call them next week. Shows that it fits that tractor! They have armatures too. Regards, Chris
  3. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Folks, Sgtill checking on things. Called Oreiley auto on the Stant thermostat. They have to call the factory for price and availibility. I mentioned the Murry that I had bough the 4039, they confirmed it was a 195 degree unit and not a direct replacement for the #13436 from Stant. They do have a Murray #3436 in 160 degree that is supposed to be a replacement for the Stant. I have no clue how I ended up with the wrong one. Any way more work to do on that. Martin Starter repaie service called and gave me the price for a rewound arrmeture using mine as a core. Yep the old one is confirmed to be bad. Glad I was setting down it was $around $280 with there labor the rewind being $265. Any one have a good TD6 starter they wan to sell? Delco #1108940. The armature # is 1918153. Regards, Chris
  4. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Ken, That helps a lot. I can see that I have the stat in upside down and have the wrong one too. And the wrong temp. Three strikes I'm out! Appreciate you posting this. I still havent found my owners manual. Service manual would be good to have. Regards, Chris
  5. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Folks, I did talk with a mechanic friend and he said that if its a 190 F stat its too hot. He wasn't sure how it should be installed. This morning I took the starter off and took it to Martins Starter service in Blooming Valley PA. They tried it and the switch several times and it worked fine, Then all of a sudden it would do nothing. They would rotate the gear and it would work fine until it landed on that same spot again. They will get me pricing on a new armature and installation. Think of putting wing nuts on all the starter bolts.:) Regards, Chris
  6. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    North, Thanks for the suggestions and picture. To get a neck on my old radiator may be a challenge? Will have to do some checking on that. I did look at that Murray part on line and it said it was 195 F. First step is to find why I cant start it! Thanks for checking on me! Regards, Chris
  7. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Rawleigh, I thought so to but I pulled up the stant thermostat and zoomed in and it shows the long end (spring) of the stat with a arrow "towards ^ radiator". I am still learning. Regards, Chris
  8. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Ken and Chip man, Thanks you both for the comments! I think I have some more work to do on this stat thing. If its the wrong one then maybe I do have it in up side down too? If you look at the picture of the stat in the housing the short end is going down towards the engine block, The spring end is up towards the rad. Thinking about the Allis WD stat I just put in, the short end of that faces the radiator, so maybe this is wrong stat and in backwards too? Sounds about like I do stuff. About the third time I may get it right!:) I think I got the stat from O Rilieys? I think it was cheaper??? Not sure what the temp range of the stat is? I did look at the Stant stat on line. and when I zoomed in it shows the long end goes "up" towards the radiator so in general I have it installed the right direction. Going to pull the starter again soon and get that working somehow. I have a feeling the air pocket is what caused me a problem with the new stat? Regards, Chris
  9. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Forgot I did have more pictures: Thanks guys for the help! Regards, Chris
  10. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Thanks, So does this need to be a pressure tight system? If so what pressure rated cap? I may need to do what Tanker recommends but why do I need to remove the thermostat? I guess it would not surprize me if the cooling system was not scaled up as Rawleigh suggested? The trials and tribulations of owning old stuff, what fun we have!:) FYI Without the thermostat there was bubbling action in the coolant when first started. With the thermostat in place there was no bubbling. Well I have to work on the starter again to get it running. Then I can do some additional testing of the coolant system. FYI once it let out that belch of coolant the temp dropped back into the RUN range on the gage. So maybe it was just air locked? Any pictures of the soldered ring on top of the rad upper radiator casting ?? Regards, Chris
  11. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Rawleigh99, No such thing as a silly question! The thermostat that I used was only able to go in one way. It was too long and hit the casting in the other direction. I tried it. I did not really do a engine flush. I think I did run water through it when I had the pan off. Cant remember. Regards, Chris
  12. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Folks, Well the installation of the thermostat went well. Filled the rad with anitfreeze mix, and fired it up. Note that this is not a pressurized system. Not sure if its supposed to be?? Cap just sets on the casting. After switching to Diesel to warmed up into the RUN range and headed toward HOT. Got in to the hot zone and a gallon or more of antifreeze belched out. Humm, maybe this is why there was no thermostat?? Neighbor stopped by last night. I mentioned I was putting in a thermostat, He asked why, He suggested I leave it alone if it wasnt overheating now! So I ran it for a few minutes than shut it down. Filled the rad back up up and went to start it. The starter never tried to start?? Looks like I have a bad starter or switch so I will have to look into that. Thanks for checking in on me. Regards, Chris
  13. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Grant, Folks, Those small hoses lengths had me a little worried. All bolts came out with just a little extra effort. I decide to take the whole assembly off and now that I have it seemed pretty easy. Spent a couple hours cleaning up the parts , making gaskets, priming and painting. Getting at the project, Lots of room to get to bolt heads. As expected there was no sign of a thermostat. So why did folks take these out? Too keep engine temp low? Here are the parts ready to go back on tomorrow: I ran them through the Electrolysis tank for about 2 hours each part. Got the hoses from NAPA. 2-1/8 dia x 3 inches long. and 1-1/2 dia x 2-3/4 long Thanks for checking in on me ! Regards, Chris
  14. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    This is KoOs picture of thermostat repairs it looks like he takes the entire assembly off the radiator and the engine. As I was looking at it last night that may be the only way to do it? The hoses which I assume will need replaced are very short and would be almost impossible to slip into place while the casting are in place. Hoping I can find hoses at NAPA? Of course new gaskets will need to be made and new stainless clamps. Bolts have not been out in years so hoping I don't break off one. Soaked in Blaster overnight.:) Regards, Chris
  15. sugarmaker

    TD6 Dozer/Loader

    Folks, A neighbor stopped over yesterday. During the visit he was asking about the TD6. One thing led to another and pretty soon I had it running and moved it closer to the garage . I was even a little surprised that it fired up on rev number two. Will try to pull the housings for the thermostat review in the near future. Will try to get some pictures of that process too. Yea KoO would have had it done by the time I write this and get the pictures posted!:) Nice to see these pictures with no snow! Steering clutches were free and brakes worked as they shoul for a old tractor: Starter and switch repairs last winter must have done the trick. There was no hesitation starting on gas: Here is a spot where I might mount that nice light I just got as a rear facing back up light. Left rear platform. Regards, Chris