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1256 Cummins Conversion

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Ed when you talked about a repower in a 650 it brought back some good memories .Back 1978when I was in FFA my dad had a 650 D. that cracked a head and we could not find a reasonable replacement so as a project we put a GMC truck V6 in it .

What a great tractor 200HP. My father past away in FEB. 2013 My oldest brother restored the tractor last winter.it brings a tear just to think about it today .

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I forget what your name is but dont you live in Onsted Michigan? Your brother or you restored a really nice Mccormick Deering 10-20 with "duals"

I talked to either you or your brother about this 650 at the Threshers show this past year.

Chris

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Ive got it!! I remember I talked to Bruce Shultz about the 650. My dad works at Archbold Equipment (formerly Dans Farm Supply)

Hes Rich Glinski

Im Chris Glinski

Chris

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That's a fantastic engine I love the 6bt pretty cool coversion!

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Hey Chris

Bruce is my oldest brother .He has restore a bunch of old classic tractors and the 10-20 was his wifes birthday present .

He has the restored original AC model E that my grand father bought new .

It was the first rubber tired tractor in the county .

Nice to have still have in the family.

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If you get to Onsted go West on Stephenson Rd. 4th drive North side is mine 7th is Bruce's

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here are a couple of works in progress, tractors of customers doing repowers

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here are a couple of works in progress, tractors of customers doing repowers

What is in the 560 Ed? I am not as good at telling engines as most, is that a 360?

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yes the 400 and the 560 are Dt 360's

the M is a 5.9.

going to see what else we have pics of next couple of days

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yes the 400 and the 560 are Dt 360's

the M is a 5.9.

going to see what else we have pics of next couple of days

What machine is the 560's 360 from?

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As far as I know it is a truck engine.

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I am sure they used a shoe horn to put it in there. I have never seen the tractor in person. I know they used the truck front cover and modified the lower water neck to be above the frame rail with some hi tech epoxy and ingenuity. We supplied the rear plate and the flywheel clutch etc. It is some where in the Little Chutes Wi area. They are putting a TA in it this winter. We supplied that as well, it will be interesting to see how it holds. Beefed up unit and if they don't get into the heavy weight class's it should be ok. Pretty much a stock truck motor although they are pretty potent. often overlooked when guys repower but will give a 400 series a pretty good run for the money. and they fit in a lot easier in many places like 06 and 56 series

Wouldn't it be fun to hang a 5 X plow on there and go to a JD plow day!

ed

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Exhaust mock up

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Charged Air Pipe

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Test on battery tray conversion to group 31

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Did get it fired up. Having a hard time trying to make the factory air filter to work. Cant make this line up. Still looking for a way to make this work.

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This may be something you have already looked into but have you looked at Donaldson filter housings? My thoughts are that they might make something that will fit in the factory location with a different outlet for the filter housing getting you more room to hook up to your turbo. I looked through their stuff when I did a new intake on the SD33T in the my Scout and was impressed with the options they have in different CFM ratings. Just an idea. What is the factory engine supposed to flow vs. the Cummins?

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Any of you guys that have done these on red tractors find a way to run the tach? I did a Moline and was planning to run the tack off the alternator. I have not found a good tack to use yet. wondering where to find a electric tack with a reasonable rpm range. mm used a tack probably close in size.

luke

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Diesel equipment company greensboro nc but there may be a local branch close to you it is a little smaller than I h one in diameter but only about an inch needs acc wire from alt

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Exhaust mock up

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Charged Air Pipe

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Test on battery tray conversion to group 31

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Did get it fired up. Having a hard time trying to make the factory air filter to work. Cant make this line up. Still looking for a way to make this work.

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Rubber 90 degree turbo hose of 1987 IH Smodel truck ,model 1954 with DT466 then a exhaust coupler to stock hose 90 off IH gasser.check Salvage yards,walk around look.

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Well here are some more pics. Been a long winter project but turned out decent I think. Will be running manure pump shortly.

Narrowing up battery cover.

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Gauge pod mock up for murphy switches

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Throttle cable mock up

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Leds

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Gauge pod murphy switches for running pto pump all day long

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Tilt steering bushing

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5140 Air filter housing and upper rad hose setup. This was very hard to make all work and keep factory hood holes.

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Hooked up the heater grids. Also have block heater.

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EDIT:

Cummins pump is .5 to 1 international tach is 2 to 1 so works just fine hooking the two up with international cable.

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Tightest part of under hood compartment is the right side of hood to 3" air inlet tube from filter housing to turbo.

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Needed some bushings in steering.

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Finished up and ready to get some work.

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Any inexpensive 1256 emblems? I cant find anything reasonable. I am fine with aftermarket as well.

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Awesome job man.When you get the tach all figured out, would you share the parts list?Mine is all done except battery box needs neatened up.And I've got to build a wiring harness.Again, nice work.

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You will love the less fuel consumption mine has trouble staying warm to the hammer mill I'm use ing the putting a acc tap off alt to run an electric diesel tack not original but cost effective it looks great good job

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