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Mike is back and we can all sleep better.Ron G

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Guys,

Thanks for the advice on people, clubs and dozers:). I understand, I have done tons for others, and organizations. You can get burnt and burnt out, with nothing done at home.

Sorry I have been busy with our Maple Taste and Tour weekend and carwlers are low on the list.

I was thinking about possibly removing the loader and frame work at some point? Just looking for some suggestions. I know the machine would not be much good for anything other than driving around or pulling something at that point. The loader is just so restrictive with the frame work in the seating area.

And as a last thing after reviewing the dozer more this summer is that I may just decide to sell it? If so then I will advertise it on here.

Hope things are good pushing dirt!

Regards,

Chris

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Guys,

Thanks for the advice on people, clubs and dozers:). I understand, I have done tons for others, and organizations. You can get burnt and burnt out, with nothing done at home.

Sorry I have been busy with our Maple Taste and Tour weekend and carwlers are low on the list.

I was thinking about possibly removing the loader and frame work at some point? Just looking for some suggestions. I know the machine would not be much good for anything other than driving around or pulling something at that point. The loader is just so restrictive with the frame work in the seating area.

And as a last thing after reviewing the dozer more this summer is that I may just decide to sell it? If so then I will advertise it on here.

Hope things are good pushing dirt!

Regards,

Chris

Wrong terminology , you can't advertise it here . You could ask if anyone close to you was looking . ;):lol:

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Yeah, though it totally makes sense as to why you would want to advertise here, they don't allow it. Sorry man

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weekends...and the men will shoot through to the beach...(high summer down under...)...end up with a beer in one hand.......a breast in the other....

Mike

I'm sure I'm not the only one that fails to see the problem with this?

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Well, its only a problem if you, like mike are hard at work while others perform those activities. Otherwise, sounds like a darned good time.

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Ok thanks guys for letting me know about the advertizing/selling thing on the forum. Most of the other forums I am on have some type of classified portion.

Regards,

Chris

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Was wondering if anyone in the area is looking at one of these units?????

Very interesting machine. It does run and move. Always interested in chatting about equipment.

Regards,

Chris

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Chris, the last member who repaired a similar loader was Doug Malone in Illinois. He repaired the steering clutch without removing the loader and was planning on then selling it.

mike

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Magicmikey,

Thanks, I may have to get in touch with Doug.

If this loader would hold together we have a lot of dirt that could be moved around a pond.

But when the right track came off it scared the guy that was operating it and I dont have a clue as to where to start to make sure the tracks are adjusted as well as they could be.

I dont need another money pit, but would put several hours into wrenching on it, if the results were positive. I am afraid its worn pretty bad in most areas!:)

Regards,

Chris

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Was wondering if anyone in the area is looking at one of these units?????

Very interesting machine. It does run and move. Always interested in chatting about equipment.

Regards,

Chris

Sent you a pm ;)

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I have to stop reading other threads on IH dirt pusher projects! From getting them home to restoration work.

Would like to have someone stop by and tell me how bad or good this old TD6 is?

Regards,

Chris

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Guys,

I had a chance to spend some quality time with the TD6.

Charged up the battery.

filled the gas tank, and then the brain gave out and I forgot that you need to pull down the lever to get gas to flow. I did get the screen cleaned out in the gas line into the carb as I was checking things.

Once I had gas the engine fired right up.

And started running on diesel right away.

I moved some dirt and did not run the tracks off.

Steering is very sluggish to poor but I am not a good judge. The brakes for steering both worked but have issues as they dont react quickly.

I did enough work that it got well warmed up!

I got warmed up too.

Regards,

Chris

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Couple more things

I found a picture of the TD6 It is labled in the lower left corner "L-TD-6W #274"

The color of the picture is kind of sepia in color. It also has notes in the upper left corner.

"NOTE.

1. EXCELLENT VISIBILITY.

2. RIGID TRACK FRAME EQUALIZER BAR.

3. SCARIFIER ATTACHMEN IN CARRY POSITION (Not sure this came with the machine?)

4. RUGGED AND PERFECTLY BALANCED."

The loader has decal ATECO on the bucket and side of operators station.

Back on these brakes, is it worth while for me to try to adjust the steering lever linkage length? And or the brake linkage length?

Regards,

Chris

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Chris, im no expert and learning as i go myself. But as you don't have any replies , i will suggest yes by the book adjustment of the clutches and brakes will make a difference. When running my 14, i will pull a clutch handle in preparation to stomp a brake pedal to get turned. It is no dainty process, and after first few days i was elbow and leg sore :D

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Not a TD6 expert by any means but i'm 99.9% sure there are no " hand steering brakes" the steer levers just release the clutch, the petals apply the turning brakes. So yes, turning would be sluggish using only the levers.

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Not a TD6 expert by any means but i'm 99.9% sure there are no " hand steering brakes" the steer levers just release the clutch, the petals apply the turning brakes. So yes, turning would be sluggish using only the levers.

Not sure on the TD6 but on the TD4/5 the steering levers first released the clutch then as they were pulled further back applied the brake. I was told the 6 is the same way but don't really know.

Rick

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Oldtanker

You're probably going to be told several times that TD 6's (in my experience) have the lever and brake system

And the print size for this may be ack willy for unknown reasons

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Not a TD6 expert by any means but i'm 99.9% sure there are no " hand steering brakes" the steer levers just release the clutch, the petals apply the turning brakes. So yes, turning would be sluggish using only the levers.

Not sure on the TD6 but on the TD4/5 the steering levers first released the clutch then as they were pulled further back applied the brake. I was told the 6 is the same way but don't really know.

Rick

I thought the t5 was one of the first to have it all on one lever, then becoming the 340 and then the 500 all of which had it on one lever, except the 500E's. Then again i could be all wrong

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Chris, im no expert and learning as i go myself. But as you don't have any replies , i will suggest yes by the book adjustment of the clutches and brakes will make a difference. When running my 14, i will pull a clutch handle in preparation to stomp a brake pedal to get turned. It is no dainty process, and after first few days i was elbow and leg sore :D

I am not sure how my Uncle worked inside this cockpit? He was 6 foot and 180 ( I am 6'2 and 210). and this machine is built for a small very quick moving 5 handed person:) After 4 hours on the TD6, I was beat to a pulp! And had a bad case of numb butt from the old wooden crate for a seat. I did move some dirt though, and now I thik I want to bring it home to play with it a little more:) I am still pulling levers, stopming on pedals ,and learning! I have to get over to it tomorrow and try to get it started again.

Regards,

Chris

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Not a TD6 expert by any means but i'm 99.9% sure there are no " hand steering brakes" the steer levers just release the clutch, the petals apply the turning brakes. So yes, turning would be sluggish using only the levers.

Guys,

You folks have forgot more about dozers than I will ever know! Thanks for the comments! I will look at the book again. I did a little reading about adjusting the hand levers. Shows a four inch movement in the book at correct adjustment. Well there have about a 24 inch movement now, so there may be some problems lurking inside this machine? There was something about turning with the levers. And if you wanted a hard pivot you used the brake pedal. More to learn. Its one thing to learn on a machine as it was new, compared to learning on a machine that is very worn!

Is there spell check on here some where? I am the worlds worst speller!

Regards,

Chris

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Not a TD6 expert by any means but i'm 99.9% sure there are no " hand steering brakes" the steer levers just release the clutch, the petals apply the turning brakes. So yes, turning would be sluggish using only the levers.

Guys,

You folks have forgot more about dozers thatn I will ever know! Thanks for the comments! I will look at the book again. I did a little reading about adjusting the hand levers. Shows a four inch movement in the book at correct adjustment. Well there have abouyt a 24 inch movement now so there may be some problems lurking inside this machine? There was something about turning with the levers. And if you wanted a hard pivot you used the brake pedal. More to learn. Its one thing to learn on a machine as it was new compared to learning on a machine that is very worn!

Is there spell check on here some where? I am the worlds worstr speller!

Regards,

Chris

I read to darned much, its been handy over the years but also a serious time suck.. Real good at reading info and spiting it back out later so tests have always been easy. Does come in handy once in awhile around sites like this as well. Getting those levers in proper adjustment will do a world of good. Not sure if you have problems lurking or not, sometimes these old things do get waaaay out of whack on adjustment and it s a bit of a miracle they keep working in the state some of them are found in. You may find that its night and day with some wrenching to return to spec, or at least as close as you can get.

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When it talks about hard pivot with brakes, remember that it is a simple clutch and brake system. Yank the clutch, then apply brake as needed.

One thing of importance is to mind the track while turning. Tracks are long and therefore drag to match. Turning is a struggle. But place inside track over a bump and machine will spin like a top. Try to turn in a depression and the ends bind badly, making huge stress. This is harsh when parts are stopped, but often worse when parts are rolling. Seems simple, but what constitutes a depression is not very big. Undercarriage is what supports a crawler, not the sprocket/idler.

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I've always said that it takes 6 arms or shorts to run a TD 20-201. You pulled back on the clutch with one leg as you shifted with the other while steering with the other yet still getting outta town with your life I

It was l

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Hi all

Not sure the real problem. Old equipment took arm and leg strenth the better it is adjusted the easyer but still harder then the new toys. if they are out of ajustment you need to ajust or replace worn parts. There is no easy fix they are old machines but I would rather fix and old one then find the computer problem on the new ones. just my opion on that.

Tuscarora trader

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