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TD6 Dozer/Loader

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Hi,

I am a new member to the forum. Thanks for having me.

I now have a TD6 dozer loader in the family that has been very well used. My Uncle used it in his sand and gravel business in the 50's and 60's. I got it started last spring and have moved it to my daughters property where it has sat most of the time.

I joined the forum to learn more about this machine and to decide what I want to do with it in the future.

Here are some pictures. its pretty rough and has lots of welding done on it. Tracks are very loose and the sterring doesnt seem to work very well.

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I changed the plugs but had not found the extend ones.

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Welcome aboard, The old gal really doesn't look too bad from those pics. You say the steering doesn't work too well, care to elaborate? If it steers at all you are already off to a good start. Stuck steering clutches is likely complaint number 1 around here with machines that have sat. Those tracks look pretty tight all things considered, perhaps something is out of whack but they look to still have at least some life left. I'm sure others will come along shortly.

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Scooter,

Since I am not a dozer operator and this was the first time moving one of these I am sure I am not a very good judge. Seems like you had to pull the sterring levers about back to you to get it to steer.

My daughters boyfriend ran the track off the right side. We knew they we pretty loose.

I do have a manual that came with it.

Right now its aging under about 2 feet of snow. Which in hind site I should have tarped it last fall:)

I am sure of one thing the battery charger in the one photo was no match for the dozer, I forgot to unhook it and ran over it:) Flat as a pancake.

Lift went up and down, seems to have leaks around the cylinders.

I did a farmers tune up on it.

I put in the plugs shown, new plug wires. Cleaned the points. And once I had it fired up on gas I was pretty sure it would run on diesel. Just had to prime the filters and lines. A little coaxing and it switched over to diesel as the manual described. Kind of tricky but with help from a friend we got it running well enough to get it loaded, and unloaded.

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Well like i said, it did steer so thats a big battle avoided. Adjustments may be needed to make it a bit better but it will never be "easy" its all muscle power on this old stuff. Diagnosing why the track came off is going to require some more pics, looks more than tight enough, perhaps too tight sitting there to run just fine. The left one looks more properly tensioned, they are supposed to have a measure of droop to them and not be like a guitar string. Oh, and as soon as you get thawed out go start it up and steer a bit if you can. Moisture+ sitting = you having to pull the clutch packs when they seize up. Only preventative is to try to keep em dry and exercise them regularly.

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I like! That's cute booger. Like others have said you are well ahead if it turns at all. Likely just needs some adjustments and possibly brake bands. I try to run mine every few months to prevent steering clutches from rusty up. Not fun to fix. I loose my tracks every now and then but so far they pop back on. I'm interested to see what fixes this. I know mine need a proper adjustment. I was able to get the right plugs at car quest. They seemed to help. I am going to get some new solid core plug wires next as I have read that resistor wire are not good on mags. I'm sure you will get lots more good advice here. Nice pics too.

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Albion Pa eh , interesting :D Does it steer when you step on the brake on that side while pulling the lever ? They don't steer well with out some brake .

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Thing with the mags is not so much the resistive wire, but that they don't kick out juice compared to what can be had with the later ignitions. The old mag coil doesn't have the same energy to work with. If it fires and starts easy, good to go.

That left side does look excessive, but the right, not so bad. At least in the pictures.

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IH Folks,

Ok trying to figure out replying to multiple quotes on here. The forums can somedays be harder than working on the equipment.

Well like i said, it did steer so thats a big battle avoided. Adjustments may be needed to make it a bit better but it will never be "easy" its all muscle power on this old stuff. Diagnosing why the track came off is going to require some more pics, looks more than tight enough, perhaps too tight sitting there to run just fine. The left one looks more properly tensioned, they are supposed to have a measure of droop to them and not be like a guitar string. Oh, and as soon as you get thawed out go start it up and steer a bit if you can. Moisture+ sitting = you having to pull the clutch packs when they seize up. Only preventative is to try to keep em dry and exercise them regularly.

Thanks for letting me know it wont be easy to steer. I had that feeling. Looks like a man with four hands and a very strong back was required to run one of these machines. I need to move this up the work list and look at it when the weather breaks. I will eventually get some more pictures of the track adjusters. This maching needs several power washings to be able to get through the dirt and the grease. (My Uncle loved to weld and maintaine his own equipment. He got every thing he could out of this old girl.) I think he bought it used in 1954?

I like! That's cute booger. Like others have said you are well ahead if it turns at all. Likely just needs some adjustments and possibly brake bands. I try to run mine every few months to prevent steering clutches from rusty up. Not fun to fix. I loose my tracks every now and then but so far they pop back on. I'm interested to see what fixes this. I know mine need a proper adjustment. I was able to get the right plugs at car quest. They seemed to help. I am going to get some new solid core plug wires next as I have read that resistor wire are not good on mags. I'm sure you will get lots more good advice here. Nice pics too.

I dont have a clue about brake bands, but that sounds like a project down in the innards of this unit.

How big of a job is that and are parts aviable for these machines.

It started on the new plugs I think they might might be #386? Cant remember getting old.

Albion Pa eh , interesting :D Does it steer when you step on the brake on that side while pulling the lever ? They don't steer well with out some brake .

Standing on the brakes did not seem to help much. But I really did not move it much yet. Still learning. Yea we are from the great north PA region:)

I enjoyed the pics, thanks. I like the box for a seat lol.

Yea looks like we could use some upholstery work too.

Thing with the mags is not so much the resistive wire, but that they don't kick out juice compared to what can be had with the later ignitions. The old mag coil doesn't have the same energy to work with. If it fires and starts easy, good to go.

That left side does look excessive, but the right, not so bad. At least in the pictures.

Scratching my head. I dont think this has a MAG. Almost sure I remember filing the points in the distributor when I did the tune up.


Thanks guys for the comments. I will dig around for some more pictures of the TD6.

On a related note I have the grease tank that came with it. Small maybe 4-5 gallon unit, Red with IH on the side and has a hose and a pump handle.

Maybe out for a while as our Maple syrup season is going to be starting this week. Lots to do!

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That grease tank will prove handy, or at the very least be a cool collectible

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IH Folks,

Albion Pa eh , interesting :D Does it steer when you step on the brake on that side while pulling the lever ? They don't steer well with out some brake .

Standing on the brakes did not seem to help much. But I really did not move it much yet. Still learning. Yea we are from the great north PA region:)

I enjoyed the pics, thanks. I like the box for a seat lol.

Yea looks like we could use some upholstery work too.

Thanks guys for the comments. I will dig around for some more pictures of the TD6.

On a related note I have the grease tank that cam with it. Small maybe 4-5 gallon unit, Red with IH on the side and has a hose and a pump handle.

Maybe out for a while as our Maple syrup season is going to be starting this week. Lots to do!

:P When sugar seasons over and the snow melts down a bit . If you travel about 30 or 40 miles east on rt 6 , I'll let ya compare and see if it's normal ;)

Be about another 30 to Gus . Another 30-40 farther is Chum . Weekend before fathers day , Chum and some friends put on a heck of a show . You could see quite a few and learn quite a bit . It'd be worth the drive . You should also go to Saegertown . There's a few there . :D

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For spark plugs I used champion 543 d89d plugs. Mags do have points and cap too. They have a couple lube points that need light oil. One is the impulse coupling. Lubing it seemed to help instantly. Thanks to the guys on here for the help!

If memory serves me right brakes can be adjusted externally up near the pedal. If you run out of adjustment there you can remove the inspection covers and adjust there too. Your manual should give you proper steps to per form if not one of us can get you the info. If you run out of adjustment or you are down to metal they can be replaced from the inspection cover. I had mine relined at kronig tractor in amity Oregon. He has used parts as well and ships if you can't find parts closer.

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The mag comment was basically for redneckhippie. I have 'access' to a lot of inside knowledge about sparky stuff :lol:

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Thanks Guys,

Coffecreek I will try to keep that show in mind.

I do belong to the PSGES. Looking forwrad to cleaning up a couple of the WD's for the July show.

Thanks for the info on the brakes. that makes it sound a little easier:)

Hope to set some taps tomorrow.

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Thanks Guys,

Coffecreek I will try to keep that show in mind.

I do belong to the PSGES. Looking forwrad to cleaning up a couple of the WD's for the July show.

Thanks for the info on the brakes. that makes it sound a little easier:)

Hope to set some taps tomorrow.

Well I'll be dipped :D And WD's no less :lol: Who'd a thunk it :D

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Sounds like your steering clutches are releasing, so that is good news! If they were not, you'd not be making any turns at all not matter how little - or just turning left only, or right only :). Brake bands are an easier fix than having to haul out that steering clutch drum!

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I did a drive by and the IH dozer was still there. I really should get it home so I could play with it a little more. Maybe this spring.

Killdozer, Thanks for the comments on the brakes.

Coffeecreek, Are you invloved with the Sagertown show?

Regards,

Chris

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I did a drive by and the IH dozer was still there. I really should get it home so I could play with it a little more. Maybe this spring.

Killdozer, Thanks for the comments on the brakes.

Coffeecreek, Are you invloved with the Sagertown show?

Regards,

Chris

No not a member . Goodwill is a friend and neighbor . Francis and some of the other guys are friends . Some of the construction guys too .

In all seriousness I don't like people much . Pretty much done dealing with organizations . I'll help several groups , if I can but not a member of any now .

Used to be a people person , but people screwed that up .

Gus relined his brakes with material from McMaster . Should be a post here with the part # .

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Coffeecreek,

Well that's too bad about the people thing.

It takes all kinds to make a world and there all here!

I figured you would know Dave G.

Thanks for the brake information. I like to use McMacter-Carr also. Great place to get hardware and about anything. Plus you can get parts quick!

Guess I need to get a avatar on here. Not sure I like the silhouette.

Regards,

Chris

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Creeky, I hear ya on the people thing. Kinda done with doing stuff like that.

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I'm thinking there are a lot of guys on here that can relate. You can't always be a people person, eventually it devolves into you doing everything for others and nothing for yourself. Sucks, but it is what it is and once you figure that out its easier to be nice, but have your own stuff get done too.

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I'm thinking there are a lot of guys on here that can relate. You can't always be a people person, eventually it devolves into you doing everything for others and nothing for yourself. Sucks, but it is what it is and once you figure that out its easier to be nice, but have your own stuff get done too.

You are right on the money with that bit of homespun philosophy, scooter...!!!

...all the restoration work I had planned.....three score and twelve years gone and I'm operating machinery flat out to help various people get there major projects done.....often for younger folk too.....who are to well educated to be a machine operator......so you help out at weekends...and the men will shoot through to the beach...(high summer down under...)...end up with a beer in one hand.......a breast in the other....will ol' idiot here endeavours to turn dog excrement into honey on some potential house site....or worse

Glad to have that off my chest.....!!!!!!

Back to topic...that old TD6 looks to be quite a challenge for potential clutch (steering ) removal....they are very trying at the best of times..lots of vigorous high end profanity required especially if one has big hands......and having to remove all that loader frame assembly just compounds the issues...

My TD6 has a 'frozen' steering clutch...even resorted to soaking the whole clutch in diesel for several weeks...then tethered the tractor to the D6 in a vain ,fruitless attempt to free the clutch.....so out it will come....sigh

Mike

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Everybody that you work for is younger than you,Mike.:))Ron G

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I think you are probably just in for brakes, but make sure you can remove power to both tracks to ensure your steering clutches are free. I believe you can get the bands out via the covers underneath the machine. Who knows, maybe you will get lucky with just an adjustment .

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I'm thinking there are a lot of guys on here that can relate. You can't always be a people person, eventually it devolves into you doing everything for others and nothing for yourself. Sucks, but it is what it is and once you figure that out its easier to be nice, but have your own stuff get done too.

You are right on the money with that bit of homespun philosophy, scooter...!!!

...all the restoration work I had planned.....three score and twelve years gone and I'm operating machinery flat out to help various people get there major projects done.....often for younger folk too.....who are to well educated to be a machine operator......so you help out at weekends...and the men will shoot through to the beach...(high summer down under...)...end up with a beer in one hand.......a breast in the other....will ol' idiot here endeavours to turn dog excrement into honey on some potential house site....or worse

Glad to have that off my chest.....!!!!!!

Back to topic...that old TD6 looks to be quite a challenge for potential clutch (steering ) removal....they are very trying at the best of times..lots of vigorous high end profanity required especially if one has big hands......and having to remove all that loader frame assembly just compounds the issues...

My TD6 has a 'frozen' steering clutch...even resorted to soaking the whole clutch in diesel for several weeks...then tethered the tractor to the D6 in a vain ,fruitless attempt to free the clutch.....so out it will come....sigh

Mike

:D Hey Mike's back .

The club thing always ends up with about 4-5 of us doing it and everybody else complaining about how it was done . :rolleyes:

Chum's bunch are the best I ever came across . Something about a small tight knit group , always better than bigger and better .

If you want practice working on brakes and clutches , you can practice on mine . :P

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