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FarmallTom

Where there's smoke...

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I got the TD9 out tonight to give my nephew a ride.

I hadn't really gone anywhere with it to speak of since I got it all put together other than just puttering around the buildings here.

Tonight, it was nice out and so I headed down my drive (about 1/4 mile) in 3rd gear at about 1/2 throttle.

We turned around at the end, heading back and I threw it in high (5th) gear and opened it up.

We didn't get very far before it started pulling down like it was under a load. I wasn't sure what was happening so I shifted down to 4th and tried again. Same result..

I limped her back to the shed in a lower gear and shut her down. I thought I saw some smoke while I was backing up so once it was shut down, I opened the little inspection covers on the rear end and smoke trailed out of both of them.

So, should I assume that the brakes are dragging, or..?

I set them buy the book twice after we finished the installation so I don't understand why they would be dragging..

Could use some insight here...

TIA

-FT

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Have you checked your oil levels?

Its probably just sticky linkages, the right brake on my TD14a is sticky from sitting so long, and it will smoke if I don't hop off and hammer it loose after I forget that steering clutch and brake are just there for looks. (brake actually works, but why use that one when the steering clutch wont disengage?)

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Well... I don't know...

Since I just had all of that apart and put it all together again... It seem less likely to me that the linkages would be the culprit. :huh:

Seems more like it's dragging and the hotter it gets, the more it drags. That's the way it SEEMS, at least...

I just walked by it a few minutes ago and I could clearly smell that acrid burnt brake smell in the air.. :(

-FT

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Tom, I think you are correct in the brakes dragging. Try backing off the adjustment a couple of turns and take her for another spin. May be just some high spots that need to get mated to the drum to get a close adjustment. Run it loose for a while then adjust the pedal travel per book. Jim.

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I found the settings to be a tad aggressive as well. Dragging was a problem and have to set them a bit loose. Probably not an issue with all new parts but my drums are what they are.

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Yeah, that's what I am thinking too...

Proper setup probably works great for "like-new" bands, etc. but, like the guy at the brake lining place said...

You gotta' remember how old these things are... You are doing good if you even have something that isn't tweaked or sprung too far to even be re-usable..! :unsure:

I decided I'd re-set them since they did have a little time on them now. (though not a lot)

I just got done backing her up onto some blocks and taking the bttm covers off...

Just came in to re-read the procedure to make sure I'm doin' it "right". :rolleyes:

I think I'll set them a little "fat" this time. ;)

-FT

PS - If all of this wasn't irritating enough... When I backed it onto the blocks, I discovered that the left side has a leak (drip) :angry: and one of the left side bttm rollers also seems to have a leak.. :(

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Alright - I spend some time jacking around with them and I THINK I got the brake-drag problem fixed.

However, I now notice that the right brake (the one that was draggin the most before) will not really "lock up".

The left side is much more responsive when you pull the lever and "bump" the brake but the right side you almost have to stand on to turn if you are going slow... :(

Did I smoke that brake in such a short amount of time..?? Could it be glazed up from getting hot or something..??

-FT

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You might check the engagment of the right clutch. It might not be fully disengaging like the left clutch seems to be doing. My old TD15 was bad for rusty clutch plates if it set alot .Find a small hill and pull both clutchs back and see if you come to an immediate stop. If you go into a right turn, the right clutch is still partialy engaged. On level ground, no load, both clutchs back,no brakes, dead stop. Once you have that, fine tune brake adjustment for a low speed turn with brake. I don't feather clutches and jam brakes to do a power under load turn. Will shorten their lives. Will do a steering correction with a partial load, and from then on, straight ahead. Your new shoes are probably allright Probably a surface rust problem on clutch drum or clutch plates.

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