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JUST CURIOUS ABOUT DEERE V-8

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IN A PREVOUS POST SOMEONE MENTIONED A JOHN DEERE V-8 DIESEL. ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM? IN 8850-955 CUBES. DID DEERE MAKE THIS ENGINE JUST FOR THE 8850? IS IT STILL BEING USED ANY PLACE? DOES DEERE STILL MAKE A V-9 DIESEL?

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IN DEERES 8960 THEY USED A CUMMINS 855. DOES DEERE USE THEIR OWN ENGINE IN THEIR BIG 4X4 TODAY OR DO THEY USE SOMEONE ELSES?

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jd v8 was a 903 cummins ripoff I think not sure 8960 and 8970 definitly used an 855 (Drive an 8970 @ work) I think jd used 60 series detriots for a while too, as the engine was a joint venture for the 2 companies

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I believe the only connection between Deere and Detroit Diesel was Deere cast some of the blocks for them.

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It was Deere's attempt to try to get an engine in the Class 8 truck market. They supposedly couldn't make emissions with it with out spending more $$$$$ on a disasterous project.

The 955 engine is definitly one of Deere's top blunders....

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WHAT I AM ASKING IS "DID JOHN DEERE EVER MAKE THEIR OWN V-8 DIESEL AND PUT IT IN THEIR OWN TRACTORS" I SEE WHERE THEY USED CUMMINGS AND THATS IT. DID THEY USE ANY OTHER BRANDS IN THEIR TRACTORS. I AM BABBLING THIS DIDNT SOUND RIGHT.. LOL I KNOW THEY USED DETRIOT WHEN THEY FIRST STARTING MAKING A 4X4. A "JIMMY TWO-STROKE JOKE"

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WHAT I AM ASKING IS "DID JOHN DEERE EVER MAKE THEIR OWN V-8 DIESEL AND PUT IT IN THEIR OWN TRACTORS" I SEE WHERE THEY USED CUMMINGS AND THATS IT. DID THEY USE ANY OTHER BRANDS IN THEIR TRACTORS. I AM BABBLING THIS DIDNT SOUND RIGHT.. LOL I KNOW THEY USED DETRIOT WHEN THEY 8850 4wd. FIRST STARTING MAKING A 4X4. A "JIMMY TWO-STROKE JOKE"

WOW TURN THE VOLUME DOWN :lol:

Yes, they make there own 12.5L engine for their 4wd's today. That engine came out of the joint venture Detroit & Deere were in back in the late 80's early 90's. And yes they used their own built 955 V-8 in the 8850 4wd tractor.

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They also used that engine in the construction divisions 844 articulated loader.

And their biggest excavator too, the 890 I think it was.

Had to LOL @ 696IH's comment about the 955 CID V8 being a 903 Cum-a-part clone. The Cummins had "903" cast into the valve covers, the 955 had the leaping lamb logo. I think certain parts would even interchange between the two engines!

I know JD is using a Mercedes engine in their big new articulated dump trucks used to haul dirt/rock around construction sites. Seems like it's a V8 or V12.

Had to laugh years ago, Neighbor lady was a purchasing or scheduling person @ JD Harvester for a while. She called Chevrolet to ask about delivery of several hundred 292 gas engines for use in the 4400 combines. She wanted to schedule so many a day for several weeks to meet the production schedule and to make sure Chevy could keep up with JD. The guy at Chevy said "Well, WHICH day do you want them, We'll build them ALL at the same time since they're so different than our normal 292's, should take about FOUR hours to make them all."

JD has never had a problem buying HP from others. Not everything could adapt to JD's old 2-cylinder technology.

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WHAT I AM ASKING IS "DID JOHN DEERE EVER MAKE THEIR OWN V-8 DIESEL AND PUT IT IN THEIR OWN TRACTORS" I SEE WHERE THEY USED CUMMINGS AND THATS IT. DID THEY USE ANY OTHER BRANDS IN THEIR TRACTORS. I AM BABBLING THIS DIDNT SOUND RIGHT.. LOL I KNOW THEY USED DETRIOT WHEN THEY 8850 4wd. FIRST STARTING MAKING A 4X4. A "JIMMY TWO-STROKE JOKE"

WOW TURN THE VOLUME DOWN :lol:

Yes, they make there own 12.5L engine for their 4wd's today. That engine came out of the joint venture Detroit & Deere were in back in the late 80's early 90's. And yes they used their own built 955 V-8 in the 8850 4wd tractor.

IT MAKES IT EASIER TO READ I HAVE BI-FOCAL GLASSES..

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One of my friends ( a huge JD fan) spent something like $23,000 on overhauling the JD V-8 engine in his 8850! Could have repowered with a Cummins for about the same. Sure did not seem like a good use of money to me..

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One of my friends ( a huge JD fan) spent something like $23,000 on overhauling the JD V-8 engine in his 8850! Could have repowered with a Cummins for about the same. Sure did not seem like a good use of money to me..

Talk about "Bleeding Green", both literally and figuratively!

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One of my friends ( a huge JD fan) spent something like $23,000 on overhauling the JD V-8 engine in his 8850! Could have repowered with a Cummins for about the same. Sure did not seem like a good use of money to me..

Methinks the Deere 8850 with the V8 will one day become a highly sought after prize for somebodies 4WD tractor collection. They seem to have a fondness for salvage yards and they don't stay there forever before going to China! :o:P

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JD has never had a problem buying HP from others. Not everything could adapt to JD's old 2-cylinder technology.

a two-cylinder powered self propelled combine would be quite a sight... and sound, too, for that matter.

(happy b-day, dr e)

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JD has never had a problem buying HP from others. Not everything could adapt to JD's old 2-cylinder technology.

a two-cylinder powered self propelled combine would be quite a sight... and sound, too, for that matter.

(happy b-day, dr e)

THANKS.... Yep, If JD were really so proud of their great 2-cyl beasts of burden you would think they would have made them for stationary industrial purposes like IH did with their 4 & 6 cyl. engines. JD now markets their new 4 & 6 cyl. engines for those types of uses.

I guess JD just wanted to destroy the hearing of Farmers. I remember the night after the first day I ran the old JD R for 4-5 hours discing stalks that spring, My ears rang for 5-6 hours after I quit.

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I would be careful bashing the 2 cylinder JD, the little OHV inline one used in the 300 and 400 series machines.

My neighbors all used them or a ford 640 or an IH Super A or 140 when I was a kid and I operated all f them at one time or another.

The 430 was the last model with that engine, with the exception of being hard to start on a cold it was an excellent machine within its capabilities.

It was not terribly loud or hard to operate.

It was more powerful than the IH or ford models I drove and L A S T E D.

Man I know that got the new 430 in 59 still had it in 2008; still a usable machine.

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JD has never had a problem buying HP from others. Not everything could adapt to JD's old 2-cylinder technology.

a two-cylinder powered self propelled combine would be quite a sight... and sound, too, for that matter.

(happy b-day, dr e)

THANKS.... Yep, If JD were really so proud of their great 2-cyl beasts of burden you would think they would have made them for stationary industrial purposes like IH did with their 4 & 6 cyl. engines. JD now markets their new 4 & 6 cyl. engines for those types of uses.

I guess JD just wanted to destroy the hearing of Farmers. I remember the night after the first day I ran the old JD R for 4-5 hours discing stalks that spring, My ears rang for 5-6 hours after I quit.

deere did offer the 'd' engine as a'w' power unit. and the little 'l' engine powered alot of 12a combines.

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Very first engine I overhauled when I started working for IH dealer was one of those two bangers on that little JD combine. Couldn't get it in the shop as door wasn't wide enough (very small shop at that time) so did it under the canopy outside. Heck, boss must have thought I knew what I was doing as he gave me a raise. I wasn't all that sure though. Only two shotter I overhauled until nearly 40 years later.

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WHAT I AM ASKING IS "DID JOHN DEERE EVER MAKE THEIR OWN V-8 DIESEL AND PUT IT IN THEIR OWN TRACTORS" I SEE WHERE THEY USED CUMMINGS AND THATS IT. DID THEY USE ANY OTHER BRANDS IN THEIR TRACTORS. I AM BABBLING THIS DIDNT SOUND RIGHT.. LOL I KNOW THEY USED DETRIOT WHEN THEY 8850 4wd. FIRST STARTING MAKING A 4X4. A "JIMMY TWO-STROKE JOKE"
WOW TURN THE VOLUME DOWN :lol: Yes, they make there own 12.5L engine for their 4wd's today. That engine came out of the joint venture Detroit & Deere were in back in the late 80's early 90's. And yes they used their own built 955 V-8 in the 8850 4wd tractor.
IT MAKES IT EASIER TO READ I HAVE BI-FOCAL GLASSES..

It may be easier for bifocals, but it makes lots of people cringe and say "I don't want to read this shouting thread." No offense intended, but that is how it comes across on the internet.

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They also used that engine in the construction divisions 844 articulated loader.

And their biggest excavator too, the 890 I think it was.

Had to LOL @ 696IH's comment about the 955 CID V8 being a 903 Cum-a-part clone. The Cummins had "903" cast into the valve covers, the 955 had the leaping lamb logo. I think certain parts would even interchange between the two engines!

I know JD is using a Mercedes engine in their big new articulated dump trucks used to haul dirt/rock around construction sites. Seems like it's a V8 or V12.

Had to laugh years ago, Neighbor lady was a purchasing or scheduling person @ JD Harvester for a while. She called Chevrolet to ask about delivery of several hundred 292 gas engines for use in the 4400 combines. She wanted to schedule so many a day for several weeks to meet the production schedule and to make sure Chevy could keep up with JD. The guy at Chevy said "Well, WHICH day do you want them, We'll build them ALL at the same time since they're so different than our normal 292's, should take about FOUR hours to make them all."

JD has never had a problem buying HP from others. Not everything could adapt to JD's old 2-cylinder technology.

Ha! Leaping Lamb! I love it!

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Ha! Leaping Lamb! I love it!

HE HE.... Buddy of mine who used to work for JD sent me an e-mail years ago with the leaping lamb logo. At first glance it looked like a deer.

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Nice! Us IH guys gotta get our jabs in when we can!

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used to be a sitting deer sticker on the door connecting the showroom to the shop of Mabel, MN's IH dealer...

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