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#1 Dirty Offio

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 09:25 AM

I know that we are not supposed to list parts for sale on here, and that is not what I am looking for exactly. I would like to know if anyone knows of a wrecking yard for bigger trucks in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, or maybe western Montana. I am looking for one of the smaller 3 speed brownie's (out of an old ton and a quarter, or ton and a half.) I have a 68 4 door long box with a NP 435 4 speed. I would like to put in a Brownie to: Get an overdrive, and be able to split the difference between 2nd and 3rd when pulling a load.

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#2 Harold H

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 06:12 PM

What is a "Brownie" transmission? I have never heard of a transmission referred to as a "Brownie".

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I know that we are not supposed to list parts for sale on here, and that is not what I am looking for exactly. I would like to know if anyone knows of a wrecking yard for bigger trucks in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, or maybe western Montana. I am looking for one of the smaller 3 speed brownie's (out of an old ton and a quarter, or ton and a half.) I have a 68 4 door long box with a NP 435 4 speed. I would like to put in a Brownie to: Get an overdrive, and be able to split the difference between 2nd and 3rd when pulling a load.

Thanks! and Happy Holidays!

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 09:22 AM

I have seen some brownies on Ebay.
Many of the dirt hauling loadstars in the 60's ran them.
I think a 9 speed eaton would be simpler if you could make room for it.
The air shift could be a problem.
I have always wanted one of the twin countershaft air shifted Roadrangers in a light truck. Someone already pointed out that the roadranger would take up most of the cab and the stick would hit the overhead and a pull clutch would be a problem for a 460 ford gasser. Plus the thing has no synchronizers in the 5 speed section.
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 10:30 AM

I guess I saw this post the day it appeared - really don't have any clues where to look in your part of the world, just have to start with any yards that have some trucks and the look at some of the lighter end of tandens, like F-1800 I-H -60/65 series Gm etc. If I was home I could give you the Spicer # that works best for install into light duty. The I-h # is AT-501 or code 13501 on the line setting ticket. Think the Spicer # is 5231, but not sure on that for a under,direct,OD 3 speed. Originally these types of geare boxes were made by Brown LIpe and the nickname brownie just kind of endured thru the Spicer generation. edit -forgot to clarify brownie refered to auxiliary transmissions
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 08:32 PM

I remember a gear box for lighter trucks called a ranger ,but I thing it was just a 2 speed.Not sure but I think it was avallabe in UD/D or D/OD.They were a lot smaller and lighter than 4sd aux

#6 Dirty Offio

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:06 AM

Harold, I was going to explain "brownie". but dieselrick explained it perfectly.

Oleman, Yeah, the airshift would be a problem, not to mention the sheer sizr of the thing. The lack of synchros would not bother me (brownies ain't got 'em either), I drive truck for a living. I agree a RR in a pickup would be cool tho! Oh, and I saw the ones on ebay also. Unfortunately those people are smoking some really bad stuff...or were when they decided on thier starting prices at any rate! lol I can buy an entire truck for $800 with a brownie, (the truck is 150 miles away, on the opposite side of seattle), I fail to see how the people listing the brownies expect the bidding to start at $1000.

Dieselrick, Thanks for the info! I will write those down so I have some #'s to play with!

John R, The ranger is a 2 speed auxillary trans that can either be installed as a direct/overdrive, or as an underdrive/direct depending on which way you installed it. What I am looking for is a 3 speed auxillary transmission, that is under/direct/overdrive. They were installed in some 1 1/4 ton and heavier trucks.

For anyone who is not quite sure what I am talking about, go to youtube and type in twin stick shifting. That will show you how they run, even if they do not show the box itself. Here is a link if it will let me post it.

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#7 john e. grott

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 11:48 PM

My dad had a gmc tandum with the 3 speed brownie your looking for he took it out when the motor went bad and he put a bigger motor in and had to revamp the trans. to fit . I'll try and get over there this weekend and see if he still has it and get back to you .
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 01:26 AM

My dad had a gmc tandum with the 3 speed brownie your looking for he took it out when the motor went bad and he put a bigger motor in and had to revamp the trans. to fit . I'll try and get over there this weekend and see if he still has it and get back to you .


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Posted 27 December 2010 - 12:49 AM

Sorry but it slipped my mind . I'll give him a call in the morning a give you a post asap.
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:16 PM

I called dad a little bit ago and he doesn't have it anymore . He said he gave it to his brother in law .He was going to put it in a house trailer hauling rig to get better fuel economy . Sorry
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