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they are asking 7750 for it, once I drive it I'll make my decision on what I'll offer them, they want to move it so I think they'll be willing to deal.

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I'd guess the rear end is likely the same (or darn close to it) as a 706-56. They all three take the same mounting brackets for a 234 picker, while the 806-1456 brackets are a separate kit.

That's odd, because externally, the transmission and rear end housings are the same. All differences are internal within the respective series.

The difference in the picker brackets is probably due to the 706, 756, and 826 being shorter tractors. All 361- and 407-powered tractors are a couple inches longer in the frame rail department.

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That's odd, because externally, the transmission and rear end housings are the same. All differences are internal within the respective series.

The difference in the picker brackets is probably due to the 706, 756, and 826 being shorter tractors. All 361- and 407-powered tractors are a couple inches longer in the frame rail department.

I always thought they were the same until I was told about the brackets... never worried about it enough to get out the measuring tape-- I found 806 brackets worked just fine on a 706 anyway.

But aren't the frame rails and hood longer on German Diesels too? I thought that was one of the hassles of putting a 310 from a combine in a 282 or gas powered 706.

(sorry for going off topic)

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is the rear frame housing on a 66 identical to the rest? i know they look the same but i wasn't sure if there was some changes. i know about the 06 rear frame not being drilled to allow fluid to fill the axle housing's, but other than that they are the same housing on every tractor right?

706 has a faster ring gear, isn't that the only difference as far as internals from an 806?

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The EP/VA6...BR Bosch rotary injection pumps used on the earlier D358 German are very expensive to rebuild. Keep this in mind when considering the 826. Just my 2 cents... :mellow:

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had one once nice smooth tractor. ours started to leak water into the oil understand they only had one o-ring where the 66 series had 3 o-rings on the bottom of the sleeve. seems like our 756 was almost as strong though,

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had one once nice smooth tractor. ours started to leak water into the oil understand they only had one o-ring where the 66 series had 3 o-rings on the bottom of the sleeve. seems like our 756 was almost as strong though,

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Does the 826 have the same rear axle as the 856 or the smaller 706 size? An 856 weighed 10,290 lbs and the 826 weighed 8581 lbs, I know the 856 came with 18.4x38's and 11Lx15's where the 826 came with 18.4x34's and 9.5x15's, smaller fuel tank, D360 instead of the D407 and other things but 1700 lbs less? The 826 was IH's cost savings answer for the 4000 John Deere, was the 826 cheaper than the 856 custom?....James

Very interesting questions!

Was the D-358 (German) engine a replacement for the D-360 or was it an option?

In Australia IH only imported the Farmall 826 with D-358, not the D-360 or C-301

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I have noticed that the 826 range is not listed CASEIH "parts online" website.

I assume that MOST of the 856 chassis parts will interchange with the 826

A reprint of the 826 / 2826 parts manual costs $170 AU here in Australia!!!

Regards from Michael H

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I read somewhere that the 826 was actually going to be a repowered 756, but since they had all the engine confusion in the 706 (3 gas engines and 2 diesel engines) when they went to replace the 310 with the 358 in the 756 they rebadged it an 826. My 826 has the Diamond Cab on it, which I have found to be quite the rarity... They were indeed a cheap tractor, if you wanted to spend the money on a new tractor it was an 856. But I've always been confused about the 856 Custom and 826. Mechanically speaking, the 826 is closest related to the 4000, the 856 had more to offer than the 4020 but the 856 Custom blew any pricing competition between the 4020 and 856 away. The 4000 has a 3020 rear end, so compariable to the 826 having the 756 rear end... Can indeed be a buggar to start, but when running, just nothing beats them... I was born and raised on an 856 and an incomparable 826, but I knew there was more to an 826 than what I was raised on... When I bought mine, I knew from the FIRST test drive at the dealership I had a good one. My younger cousin can't believe the differences in the two tractors, how one will walk all over the other. I haven't run my 826 and the 856 side by side at all, kind of hard to with the 856 having 20.8x38's and the 826 having factory original 18.4x34's (which the 856, a Custom, had originally) but I know they are very close in horsepower by the way they dominate the same size plow...

I have always been partial to the German motors, and after owning one and running it for two years now, SOLD. There are a lot of advantages and I have a soft spot for the 407, but I feel my money is made by having the 358. I was thrilled to find a rebuilt pump on this tractor when I bought it, a very value added product.

Good luck, make sure you are comfortable with the history/mechanics of the tractor, just because I loved mine from the moment I put it in gear doesn't mean the next one will be like that... Always gotta be buyer beware, but I sure am partial to them.... :wub:

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the injection pump is not that bad to fix its the heads are no longer made here in the us anyway thas what well make it expesive otherwise 600 buck gets it in the ballpark less or more on whats wrong

the Nuess engines in the 756 -826 dont need to have the water filter kit they are fine dads has 15000 hours on it never any signs of cavition its been overhauled in 98 u can add the additive to the coolant as I do now I dont like the filter kits on 826 they look ugly kindof like putting a bottle heater on and bolting it to the outside of the frame rail uck.

talk him down to $7000 but take ur bucket and check the engine oil that is a sure way to know about the engine. other way is if u can run it for a like an hour or two good and warm if the oil light starts flashing at low idle a good sign of a cheap OH or getting one it does look nice from the pics.

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so compariable to the 826 having the 756 rear end... :wub:

826 had the 856 rearend.

Ray

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so compariable to the 826 having the 756 rear end... :wub:

826 had the 856 rearend.

Ray

Sounds good!! I'll stand corrected!!

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so compariable to the 826 having the 756 rear end... :wub:

826 had the 856 rearend.

Ray

What were the difference's between the 756, 826, and the 856 rear ends...?

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so compariable to the 826 having the 756 rear end... :wub:

826 had the 856 rearend.

Ray

What were the difference's between the 756, 826, and the 856 rear ends...?

I think the 856 had some bigger bearings and final gears.

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So if I am reading the reply's correctly, the 826 was built as cheaper option to the 856, and a price beater to the 4000 series JD??

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So if I am reading the reply's correctly, the 826 was built as cheaper option to the 856, and a price beater to the 4000 series JD??

I think the 856 Custom was the competitor to the JD 4000.

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So if I am reading the reply's correctly, the 826 was built as cheaper option to the 856, and a price beater to the 4000 series JD??

I think the 856 Custom was the competitor to the JD 4000.

I KNOW FarmallFan is correct because that is how they were marketed... Just goes to continue the mystery on the 826... But I'm glad they made it!!!

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So if I am reading the reply's correctly, the 826 was built as cheaper option to the 856, and a price beater to the 4000 series JD??

I think the 856 Custom was the competitor to the JD 4000.

I KNOW FarmallFan is correct because that is how they were marketed... Just goes to continue the mystery on the 826... But I'm glad they made it!!!

Ken,s Farmall book says that IH was going to make the 826 as a increased power 756 series B, but changed their mind and called it 826.

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Weren't the 826's built from 1969 to 1971 and the 756's and 856's built from 1967 to 1971 in the U.S? U.S. production stopped when the 66 series came out. The 4000 John Deeres came out in 1969 and were produced until the 30 series came out in 1973. Most people around here that I've talked to say the 826 had the lighter 756 rear gearing. The older gentleman that was the IHC salesman here said his understanding was that the 826 was built because IHC wanted a "new" model to compete directly against the 4000 JD and the way to do it was to use the "new, more powerful" engine and 756 sheet metal and rear gearing. The 756 was 80hp, the 826 was 90 hp and the 856 was a 100hp tractor....James

http://www.ytmag.com/farmall/messages/335029.html

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Weren't the 826's built from 1969 to 1971 and the 756's and 856's built from 1967 to 1971 in the U.S? U.S. production stopped when the 66 series came out. The 4000 John Deeres came out in 1969 and were produced until the 30 series came out in 1973. Most people around here that I've talked to say the 826 had the lighter 756 rear gearing. The older gentleman that was the IHC salesman here said his understanding was that the 826 was built because IHC wanted a "new" model to compete directly against the 4000 JD and the way to do it was to use the "new, more powerful" engine and 756 sheet metal and rear gearing. The 756 was 80hp, the 826 was 90 hp and the 856 was a 100hp tractor....James

http://www.ytmag.com/farmall/messages/335029.html

JD 4000 VS 856 custom price tractors

JD 4020 VS reg 856 a 856 was more $ I think

JD 4020 VS 826 do the same work as a 4020 on less fuel was part of the trick and the 826 was cheaper with a TA

that How it rolls

756 856 826 same rear ends .

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Does'nt all this talk about 826's give you the urge to go out and buy one? :lol:

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Does'nt all this talk about 826's give you the urge to go out and buy one? :lol:

Gives me the urge to buy ANOTHER one!!!! :D

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Does'nt all this talk about 826's give you the urge to go out and buy one? :lol:

a 976 w/3pt would really blow there minds at a plow day

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I thought the 514 made an impression........976......I'ts going to be tuff packing the box with another one is it not? :ph34r:

......If any one is interested, The guy we get our hay from want's to sell his 826. I found this out this evening. 6k hrs with only 500 on a majior and new paint. Post me for details,Thanks.

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