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repowering hough 30b with a 353 gm

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Hi, A new member here from New Brunswick Canada. Just wondering what you guys think about repowering a hough 30b 263 gas with a 353 detroit diesel . Im pretty shure that its the same bellhousing (sae #2 )

Or 3, the flywheel would probably have to be a industrial one for the 353 . I think I would probably have to properly center the fiber gear for the torque converter and double check for the depth from the outer edge of the bellhousing . Im a welder for a living and have multiple machine tools, welders ect so thats o.k .The wix filter book lists the h30b as having this engine ??? I havent seen one .Then there is proper rpm , rotation ,ect .... What rpm would the gas engine turn ? I think i can have a 353 turn up to 2800 rpm .what are you r thoughts on this conversion ? I can get one of these engines . Thanks

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Me Thinks you better have a light throttle foot the little GM might be a little too much snort

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welcome to the board!

i cant help you much with the repower, however, its nice to see some more maritimers joingin up, i live in Truro NS. where abouts in NB are you?

pictures of yuor machine would be nice. my father had a 50's hough (believed to be a HU) that was repowered to an IH truck engine when the 6Cyl Herculese quite.

im sure someone on here has delt with these loaders so im sure help will be along shortly.

thanks

Stefan

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Me Thinks you better have a light throttle foot the little GM might be a little too much snort

bubby screeemer was a option in them

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Hi Oilcan Welcome to the board! Good to see another Canuck arrive.

I have a Hough Sales Brochure here for H-30 B & there are IHC G-263 Gas, IHC D-236 Diesel & Detroit 3-53 listed. They all run at a governed speed of 2200 RPM & the date is Mar '66.

Also have a Hough H-30 & H-50 service manual for IHC D-236 & D-282 engines from Dec '62, it says full load governed speed is 2400 +_10 RPM with high idle at 2615 +_40 RPM.

These units had a Borg & Beck torque convertor, yours might have an IH one too. I would be careful with one of these torques behind any Detroit. Also IH powered machines have drive straps or a drive plate, no fiber gear discs, but it could be different with an original Detroit powered unit. I haven't seen any material in our collection for H-30 B with a Detroit engine. Sounds like it should go in with a little engineering. I was always curious what one would be like with a 4BT Cummins. Russell

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...the Hough 30's were repowered with 330 cubic inch Ford 6 cylinder diesels ..down under.

...chjeap and relatively simple conversion....

Mike

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so you think that the detroit might be too powerful for the torque converter ect ? I was told that this machine shared a lot of components with its big brother the h50 ( trans . planetary ect ) but dont know for shure . somebody mentioned something about a flexplate sort of thing .....do you suppose that this is adaptable to the gm flywheel ??? Im from northern n.b campbellton to be exact . I think i could get the rmp turned down as there is a couple of detroit experts around ( they use these alot around here for skidders) maybee it is too powerful ????

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...the Hough 30's were repowered with 330 cubic inch Ford 6 cylinder diesels ..down under.

...chjeap and relatively simple conversion....

Mike

yup mike, i have a friend with a 30b.........with a ford 6 pot something in it.........he had the torque converter out of it a wee while back, very dead looking, got another, and she happy again, i think his come from a council in northern southland somewhere

i was also told some of the components were interchangable with the bigger houghs.........but that didn't explain why he had a **** of a time finding a complete trans

ya talk about skidders with detroits in em.......i have a customer with a clark 666E that now has a 8.3 cummins, reckons its a good thing.........

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Pudding

I know what you mean I have a 404 Timberjack with a 453 in it and that critter is why I say huh? a lot. Blower self destructed awhile back and EVERYONE with in 5 miles requested that I DON'T fix it

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OC 3-53's were put into these machines & yes, they do share a lot of components with H-50's. The same trans & torque are used in H-60' & H-70's too. It was called a Hough P-600 trans & yours may have a P-601 which incorporated a "soft shift", this manual was printed & revised in 1962. Also have an H-70F brochure from 5-65, it lists this machine with IH DT-429, Cummins C-160CI or Detroit 4-71 engines. Looks like it has a different torque convertor though as the H-70 has a single phase convertor & the H-30 has a two phase unit.

CC My uncle had a Clark 667 D with a 4-53 turbo & it had a big muffler/spark arrestor on the roof, it sounded more like a huge vacuum cleaner, not noisy at all. I ran a TJ 404 with a 4-53 N with the short muffler & I understand your neighbors concern. Russell

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Hi, A new member here from New Brunswick Canada. Just wondering what you guys think about repowering a hough 30b 263 gas with a 353 detroit diesel . Im pretty shure that its the same bellhousing (sae #2 )

Or 3, the flywheel would probably have to be a industrial one for the 353 . I think I would probably have to properly center the fiber gear for the torque converter and double check for the depth from the outer edge of the bellhousing . Im a welder for a living and have multiple machine tools, welders ect so thats o.k .The wix filter book lists the h30b as having this engine ??? I havent seen one .Then there is proper rpm , rotation ,ect .... What rpm would the gas engine turn ? I think i can have a 353 turn up to 2800 rpm .what are you r thoughts on this conversion ? I can get one of these engines . Thanks

Welcome oil can, where in New Brunswick are you located? I'm between Fredericton and Woodstock. Good luck with your repower project. :)

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im from campbellton n.b ,tractorfan thinking of putting a 353 detroit in a old hough h30b . Another thing I would like to pick up is a famall cub....are there many of these around ??? Im looking for parts for the hough too

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im from campbellton n.b ,tractorfan thinking of putting a 353 detroit in a old hough h30b . Another thing I would like to pick up is a famall cub....are there many of these around ??? Im looking for parts for the hough too

Your quite a ways away then. :D Cubs are scarce around here, not sure up your way.

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