How many amps does your shop need?
Posted 13 December 2005 - 10:44 AM
Any ideas what level of service I should get (amperage wise)? They offer 200-350 amp service at a standard rate. Anything over 400 amps requires a load letter and a riser diagram (whatever those are) from an electrician. But apparently if I have the letter and diagram I can get 400 amps and over for no extra charge...if I properly understood the field rep yesterday anyway.
I need to decide here real soon, and as always big $$$ are at stake, so any advice from you experts would be real helpful. Thanks in advance!
Posted 13 December 2005 - 11:28 AM
Posted 13 December 2005 - 11:31 AM
phase available? In the long run 3 phase is cheaper, so I have been told.
Keep in mind I now nothing about electricity, but I am from the school of
thought that you over build now because at some point in time you will use
those resources later. Really depends on what your short/long term goals
are. Are you going to be doing any of the work yourself? Are you going to
start up a buisness at this location?
This topic will probably be a hot one & may give you
more questions than answers!
Posted 13 December 2005 - 03:51 PM
hogs at the same time ie. not welding while the wife is in the
hot tub. BTW I had one of those big tubs it could blow a 50 amp
breaker with all the pumps and heaters running, Just a big waste
of electricity and water.
Posted 13 December 2005 - 04:22 PM
Thanks so much for the help, I'm in "I'm my own general contractor rapid decision mode" right now!
Posted 13 December 2005 - 04:31 PM
Posted 13 December 2005 - 04:33 PM
WITH THE POS. OF ELECTRIC HEAT I WOULD THINK 200 AMP IS PUSHING IT. DAD HAD OIL HEAT AND REPLACED WITH HEAT PUMP WITH ELECTRIC BACK UP AND HAD TO HAVE SERVICE UPGRADED TO 200 AMP. HE USES NO GARAGE TYPE EQUIPMENT JUST HOUSEHOLD LOAD. SO FOR THE TIME BEING I WOULD THINK MINIMUM OF 350 AMP.BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THE POWER TO MILKBARN IS ON 50 AMP BREAKER AND I HAVE NOT BLOWN IT, YET! HAVE A LARGE FREEZER,7HP.60GAL.COMPRESSOR,MILLER 120/240 WIRE FEED,225 LINCOLN,BUT IF A WELDER IS ON I TURN THE COMPRESSOR OFF, IF I NEED AIR AT SAME TIME I HOOK UP 5HP 220COMPRESSOR TO AIR LINE TO KEEP PRESSURE IN BIG COMP. UP.THE 7HP TAKES 52AMP FOR START UP BUT IT WILL START AND RUN WITH 30 AMP SLOW BLOW FUSES FOR SHOP MOTORS AND HEATING SYSTEMS WITH OUT BLOWING FUSES.
I ALSO AM NOT AN ELECTRICANN OR AN ELECT. DESIGNER OR ANY OTHER QUALIFING OCCUPATION,I HAVE DONE A FAIR AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL WIRING AND DID SPEND ABOUT 6 MONTHS WORKING AS ELECTRICANS HELPER BACK IN LATE 70'S MAINLY COMMERCIAL(WHY I PREFER CONDUIT OVER HOUSE WIRE).
THIS 20 YR OLD MODULAR HAS 200 AMP PANEL 90AMPS FOR FURANACE,40 AMP FOR STOVE,30AMP DRYER,25AMP HOT WATER,PLUS LIGHT AND OUTLETS, WASHER AND 2 KITCHEN OUTLETS ARE 20 AMP REST AND LIGHTING ARE 15 AMP.
LOAD LETTER IF I UNDERSTAND DAD RIGHT SOUNDS LIKE LETTER STATING AMP DRAW OF ALL EQUIPMENT TAKEN FROM ALL EQUIP./MOTOR TAGS,AND FIGURING X WATTS OF LIGHTING TO X SQ FEET AND OUTLET WIRING,ETC.BASICLY NEED DESIGNER/ELECTRICAN TO DETERMINE TOTAL LOAD DRAW YOU WILL NEED FOR YOUR BUILDING,RISER DIAGRAM SHOWS SERVICE ENTRANCE AND ALL PANELS CONNECTED TO IT,AS I UNDERSTOOD DAD.SUGESTION WAS YOU NEED AN ELECTRICAL CODE BOOK (IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND AND FIND WHAT YOU NEED IN IT (CAN BE COMPICATED TO THE UNKNOWING-FROM MY EXPERIANCE TO UNDERSTAND/INTERPITE)OR NEED TO CONSULATE ELECTRICAN,SUGGESTS THAT 350 AMP OR 150 AMP PANEL MIGHT BE HARD TO COME BY BUT MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE MAIN BREAKER TO 150 AMP/350AMP(IF EXISTS-HE DON'T RECALL AND MY CODE BOOK IS NOT AT MY FINGER TIPS CURRENTLY)IF CODE/POWER SUPPLIER ALLOWS IT-MORE QUESTIONS NOW TO FIND OUT.
I THINK YOU JUST OPENED A CAN OF WORMS,GOOD LUCK, WILL TRY TO FIND SOME OF THIS IN CODE BOOK AS SOON AS I CAN GET TO IT,HOPEFULLY WE HAVE AN ELECTRICAN ON HERE SOMEWHERE THAT CAN GIVE YOU BETTER ANSWERS.DAD HAS A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND IS NOT ABLE TO GET ON COMPUTER FOR AWHILE,PLUS HE NEEDS TO JOIN RP FIRST.
TAKE CARE,HAVE A GOOD ONE BEST OF LUCK,!
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Posted 13 December 2005 - 05:31 PM
My basement shop is wired on a 20 amp circuit for the outlets, the lathe, compressor and milling machines are on a 30 amp circuit and the welders are on a 60 amp circuit. I have NEVER popped a breaker in 25 years and I don't make a habit of running more than what a circuit can handle. I have never worried about running shop equipment while anything else in the house was being used.
You will be just fine with a 200 amp service. Put the money you will be saving by not going to 350 amps (it's overkill and have you priced out a 350 amp box? big $$$) into another shop machine.
Posted 13 December 2005 - 05:57 PM
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Posted 13 December 2005 - 11:04 PM