B.B.

New Member with a 1486 that needs a lot of TLC and now a 1086, and 986

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All, I grew up on a small farm in Southern Indiana, and own most of that farm today.  I do not live there, but now rent the ground out for pasture ground for beef cattle.  Dad always had beef cattle so that was a natural fit.  Growing up, a dairy farmer neighbor had a IH 986 that he chopped with and did other jobs.  I always loved that tractor and got to use it a few times to move hay etc for him.  I've always wanted one.  He also had a Ford 9030 so that was another bucket list tractor as well, but I bought a NH TV-140 a few years ago to use as a big loader tractor at the farm and really enjoy that tractor.    As the story goes sometimes when kids grow up I moved away to college and stayed here about 2 hours from the farm.  I now live in a sub-division but hope to retire to the farm one day.  That said I am up there nearly every weekend especially in the winter, as mom still lives there although every winter she talks about moving to town. :)

 

So.... with that said a couple weeks ago I found a 1977 IH1486 that was priced really well and brought it home.   It needs a lot of TLC but is all there, and for what I paid I can throw some money at it to get it working.  My plan for this tractor is to eventually buy a 15' batwing to help keep the farm/pastures mowed.   I grew up working on tractors and have for several years had multiple Cub Cadets that have needed rebuilt/refurbed etc.   I work as a social worker/therapist but am pretty mechanically inclined so I think I am up to the task of fixing this thing with a little assistance. :)  I keep telling myself it's just a really big Cub Cadet! LOL 

 

From what I know about the tractor I bought it from it's second owner who used it mostly for irrigation until the clutch went out about 5-6 years ago.  The TA also only worked in the high side.  That farmer parked it in the fence row and left it sit for the last few years.  Because it has sat unused it's had a few mouse nests in it and worse yet the motor is stuck.  The cab also has all the typical rust for a tractor that has sat out.  The hour meter and I think it's probably correct shows just over 7K hours.  

 

I know I will have to install a new clutch which means splitting the tractor.   I have been looking at TA replacement and Leaman's looks like the best bet for me to send or take him the transmission and have him rebuild it.  I am currently looking for someone closer to Southern IN to be able to replace the TA as I don't want to chance not getting it right when it takes so much work to replace.   

 

I am hopeful that when the tractor is split I can bolt a long piece of angle iron to the fly wheel to get the motor unstuck.  I realize I may be in for an "in frame kit" for it.   Dad had a C Allis years ago that stuck from sitting and we drug that tractor all over the farm and rocked and rocked and rocked trying to get it free.  We finally split it, bolted the angle iron on and it came free very easily that way.  I realize this isn't a C Allis Chalmers! :) But I can hope!!!! 

 

I need to buy a Service manual, and a few other books and am currently saving funds for the clutch, and TA repair.  I will try and update this thread as I move along and please if you have any insight, advice, or wisdom on the subject please don't be shy.  I know I'm in a little over my head here, but I've fixed worse, and this is a tractor I've always wanted so I don't really care if it does take 10 years! 

 

And Lastly I'm stoked to have a big red tractor and I can see myself collecting 86 series as I still want a 986, and wouldn't mind having a 1086 either! lol 

 

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Here's a few pictures of it in tit's as found status in the "fence row" in Northern IN.   There really wasn't a fence there, but you know what I mean! 

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Ive never been around the 86 series but wanted one myself for a number of years. With patience you will get er done. Good luck and hope to see pics of it in action!

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That's one straight and complete fencerow tractor. Normally when you find them that way they are rough with a capital R. Windows broke out, missing hood panels, doors off, I've even seen rougher interiors than yours. Good find and good luck on your project. 

My family had a 986 when I was growing up. It predated me to the farm by a few years. It was our big tractor for years. We traded it for our FWA 7120 in Dec 1999. I love our Magnum don't get me wrong, but there are times I wish we could have bought the Magnum and kept the 986 as well. 

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1 hour ago, Reichow7120 said:

That's one straight and complete fencerow tractor. Normally when you find them that way they are rough with a capital R. Windows broke out, missing hood panels, doors off, I've even seen rougher interiors than yours. Good find and good luck on your project. 

My family had a 986 when I was growing up. It predated me to the farm by a few years. It was our big tractor for years. We traded it for our FWA 7120 in Dec 1999. I love our Magnum don't get me wrong, but there are times I wish we could have bought the Magnum and kept the 986 as well. 

It's really not in bad shape.  When I went to get it the owner/farmer truly thought if we put some new batteries in it, it would run.  I determined it was stuck and was able to buy it for half of what he was originally asking, so I'm in it really cheap.   

 

I would love to see it fully restored to it's former glory and it may get there one of these days, but for the time being I'd like to get it all working and all the bugs worked out, before making it pretty again. 

 

These 86 series range in price a great deal, and I was glad to finally find one I could afford. 

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Nice tractor! Always liked the 86 series. Not sure if I'll ever own one (except maybe a 3388). Looks to be a lot of fun!

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14 minutes ago, rcb said:

Nice tractor! Always liked the 86 series. Not sure if I'll ever own one (except maybe a 3388). Looks to be a lot of fun!

Come over and help me work on it and maybe we'll get ya more interested in getting one! :)

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Looks like a nice find. Where in Southern IN do you call home?

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I see you're into RC planes as well. So am I. I belong to a club in Seymour. Where abouts are you?

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4 minutes ago, rcb said:

I see you're into RC planes as well. So am I. I belong to a club in Seymour. Where abouts are you?

Farm is South of Salem IN, and I actually live in Evansville.   I'd be happy to come fly sometime too!  I've not flown at the Seymour field before. :)

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I'm an hour from Evansville in So. IL

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I grew up in Palmyra. Now I live in Corydon. My brother lives on Big Springs road. Bet we know some of the same people. 

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Just now, Jaa600 said:

I grew up in Palmyra. Now I live in Corydon. My brother lives on Big Springs road. Bet we know some of the same people. 

Yeah I know where big springs rd is :)

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Welcome to the forum BB, good to have you.  There is a lot of info available online on doing the T/A and clutch.  If you are mechanically inclined and have access to a good shop and tools, and have lots and lots of time, there's nothing like doing it yourself.  I replaced a T/A in one of dads 3588 2+2 tractors when I was 18, and I didn't know half as much as I thought I did at the time:) There is a lot of satisfaction in doing it yourself,its a kind of therapy in and of itself.  Either way, you got your hands on a great tractor!  Good luck

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like the others said that is one nice fence row tractor,complete and tin not all tore up.I owned a 1086 4 post.I don't know how you  determined how tight it is stuck.Did you just hit the starter,put a pry bar on flywheel  or did you drag it . One thing in your favor is it has a rain cap over it.That is 90% of your battle right there.If I were you ,I would take inspection plate off at fly wheel housing ,put a pry bar in it and see if it will move first.If it does,either crank it with fuel off to raise oil pressure or maybe pull off supply line to turbo and pre lube your turbo with engine oil.That turbo has got to be dry.If this all works it could save you a lot money and time off the bat.If it doesn't your not out  anything ,you were planing on a rebuild anyway.  Good luck and once a farm boy always a farm boy and farm boys and girls can do anything once they put their mind to it.

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When looking at it we pulled the inspection cover.  She's tight :(

When I split it I'm going to try my angle iron trick and see if I can't get it loose.  I'm tempted to pull the injectors and put some fuel and transmission fluid mixture in the cylinders and let that sit for a few weeks. 

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I'm sort of close to Medora. I go down through Salem/Palmyra often. Come up and fly some time. Here in a couple weekends we are hosting the scale nationals. Should be an impressive show (as far as RC airplanes go).

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Try pb blaster / kerosene/ atf mix pull injectors and fill full let soak then go by and bump the starter every couple days time and patience are of the essence that way you will know what you have before you have to rebuild in the future

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Welcome and good luck! Not a bad idea to soak the cylinders. Binder books is your best source for manuals. If you can find originals on ebay great.

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4 hours ago, 660 driver said:

Welcome and good luck! Not a bad idea to soak the cylinders. Binder books is your best source for manuals. If you can find originals on ebay great.

That's really the next thing I need.  My buddy Ken Updike was able to send me an original parts manual.   I also bought the Red Tractors 1958-2013 book from Ken, and have been reading it a little each night.  It just makes me want more red tractors! :)

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Cant have 2 many. I have 5 for 24 acres lol

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Ahahaha... yeah far too many here as well. It's fun though and cheaper than the casino.

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Looks to be in better shape than 80% of the ones I've seen sell, here in NY, in the last 5-10 years. Welcome.  I'm new too. 

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Thanks for the positive comments guys.  I think any of us that are interested in old machinery can always see the diamond in the rough! :) I'll keep ya updated as I progress.  Being that I am only going to get to work on it here and there it may take a while! 

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