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1 hour ago, red211 said:

Dang that IH PU looks good.  Looked like an 8/9000 ford in one of the pics behind the MH.  Got Me thinking I have yet to see one of those in any plow day pics even though there are other brands beside IH.  I always thought those big Fords looked good.

That Ghost Ford 8/9000 was the backside of a Case 970 on display with a disk.

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Getting new natural gas service this week. Now to convert furnace,  water heater and fireplace from LP gas.

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mc D for lunch. ....

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On 10/15/2017 at 11:11 AM, Rainman said:

2 1/2 weeks later. ...looks like  winter wheat.

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Now spreading of liquid xxxx.....

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Fall tillage.....20171101_155843.thumb.jpg.0ea50d85cb01fb3889e77a8530d60f43.jpg

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Maxxum....5250

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Green neighbor.... tonight.  Chopping stalks.....

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Daylight stalk chopping. ....same field. Beautiful day ....64* Record , High temperature. 

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I have never seen fodder chopped with a pickup head before.  Grain was harvested with a combine, then fodder shreaded raked and chopped?  What are they using it for?

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11 hours ago, hobbyfarm said:

I have never seen fodder chopped with a pickup head before.  Grain was harvested with a combine, then fodder shreaded raked and chopped?  What are they using it for?

Yes, combine, shred & rake then chop stalks...I assume for bedding @ dairy. They and 2 other large neighboring  dairies supply manure to a digester.

My # 2 Son used to date their sister when  he was in H.S. & he 'd help pushup in the bunk when they chopped silage.

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Sorry for jd's.....but it's America's Dairyland pics.

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You can still pump in winter there?  We cannot after Sept 1, dirt ground [spud, corn, etc] Nov 1 grass fields.  Shouldnt it be a frozen tundra by now?

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2 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

You can still pump in winter there?  We cannot after Sept 1, dirt ground [spud, corn, etc] Nov 1 grass fields.  Shouldnt it be a frozen tundra by now?

We can go until the 15th of December unless it's snow covered or more than 4" frost. I have some to finish yet, terrible weather for getting hardly anything on at all 

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2 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

You can still pump in winter there?  We cannot after Sept 1, dirt ground [spud, corn, etc] Nov 1 grass fields.  Shouldnt it be a frozen tundra by now?

We had near record hi-temps , mid-60s  early this week and lows mid-30s with little frost out that came couple weeks ago when had teens for low temps.

I don't know what cut off date is. I think % of slope has some bearing when ground (tundra) is frozen. 

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I couldn't imagine running windrowed fodder through a chopper that would take power and run the risk of getting rocks in the cutter head I bet it's nice bedding though 

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7 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

You can still pump in winter there?  We cannot after Sept 1, dirt ground [spud, corn, etc] Nov 1 grass fields.  Shouldnt it be a frozen tundra by now?

Did a little research - CAFO= 1,000 head,

Nutrient  Management Plan  check list has about 16 items to consider.

Liquid on slopes not  > 9%, not >12% if contoured cropped. Winter appls if incorporated within 72 hours. Prohibited on frozen ground. ...1st  1/2"  - 8" soil.

DNR has pages of reg.....NR 243

Someone  here must have personally delt with all Fed & state regs .....

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On 11/25/2017 at 8:51 PM, Rainman said:

Did a little research - CAFO= 1,000 head,

Nutrient  Management Plan  check list has about 16 items to consider.

Liquid on slopes not  > 9%, not >12% if contoured cropped. Winter appls if incorporated within 72 hours. Prohibited on frozen ground. ...1st  1/2"  - 8" soil.

DNR has pages of reg.....NR 243

Someone  here must have personally delt with all Fed & state regs .....

In our county a CAFO is 301 head.  My nephew feeds 3000 head a year on concrete confinement and the feds are making unannounced visits to him all the time.  This past year the looked at some satellite images and made him move his manure pile, gigged him for his drains not working after a 5 inch rainfall nut the big one was making him put a new well down because it was too close to the bunker silo, according to them.  Indiana legislation is going to rewrite the CAFO bill this year and several state congressmen visited the farm to see how he changed things.  Funny thing was they couldn't believe how there was no smell.  Just so happened to be a 70 degree day, sunny and 10 mph breeze out of the south that was blowing the smell away.  Needless to say, he didn't take them to the north side!

jerry

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Red Tillage ....Joe even let me ride for a few rounds. Too wet in areas, maybe finish tomorrow .....

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More RP.....

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Technically a CAFO is 1000 animal units, not animals.  So around 700 dairy cows with no young stock.

So anything over 1000 AU would fall under DNR 243.  Anything under would fall under NRCS 590.  Most counties also have Livestock Siting ordinances that kick in at 500 AU.

I am a CCA and TSP and NMPs is what I do all winter when I'm not seeing customers or giving laboratory tours at the soil lab.  Quiz me with all your burning manure questions!

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6 hours ago, Scott! said:

Technically a CAFO is 1000 animal units, not animals.  So around 700 dairy cows with no young stock.

So anything over 1000 AU would fall under DNR 243.  Anything under would fall under NRCS 590.  Most counties also have Livestock Siting ordinances that kick in at 500 AU.

I am a CCA and TSP and NMPs is what I do all winter when I'm not seeing customers or giving laboratory tours at the soil lab.  Quiz me with all your burning manure questions!

Scott,

Thanks for that clarification.

So 1st question .

Fill me in ---CCA, TSP & NMP?

How close  to a private well with the different types of spreading?  100' ?

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On ‎12‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 3:52 PM, Rainman said:

Scott,

Thanks for that clarification.

So 1st question .

Fill me in ---CCA, TSP & NMP?

How close  to a private well with the different types of spreading?  100' ?

CCA - Certified Crop Advisor (The qualification required to write an NMP for a grower.  To become a CCA you have to pass a HARD test, have 2 years experience with a  collage degree/4? years without a degree, and go to 20 hours of continuing education every year...and of course there is a fee.  A grower can also write his/her own NMP after going to a class)

TSP - Technical Service Provider (The qualification required to write an NMP/CNMP for a USDA cost shared plan)

NMP - Nutrient Management Plan (The fancy document that says how much manure and/or fertilizer goes where at what time)

CNMP - Comprehensive Nutrient Management Plan (A HUGE document that looks at all environmental risks on an operation not just application of manure/fertilizer.  Things we look at are air quality, (smell, dust, NOx, etc), water quality (chem storage, fuel storage, wells, rainwater, etc)  The process is generally the precursor to being accepted for manure storage cost share.)

 

If you wonder how a guy gets into this kind of thing...I went to UW - Stevens Point and got my BS in Soil and Land Management.  It is a degree geared towards the practical/application side of soil science.  Most of the people I graduated with are employed by local Land Conservation Departments, DNR/DATCP, or NRCS.  The other ones have careers like me involving NMPs, precision soil sampling, and agronomy.

The current standard states no application of any manure or fertilizer within 50' of a well.  No winter application of manure within 200'.  BUT a new 590 standard was passed earlier this year.  The new standard is almost twice as many pages as the last one.  I'm not looking forward to it. lol

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Scott,  

thanks I appreciate your feedback. :D

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Record high temperature of 61* @ 7pm with area thunderstorms . Now colder seasonal temps blowing in with gusty winds to 40+mph. Highs in 30s tomorrow. 

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