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  1. Robbie, you sure know how to open up a sore subject. I was never personally involved in any of these, but I've heard enough stories about all of this. The Case/IH merger created a lot of bitter enemies as far as 2 dealers in the same town was concerned. In South Dakota, my understanding was that reps from the new company(CaseIH) looked at the financial status of both dealers....the one with the better bottom line got the contract from CaseIH. Survival of the fittest, you might say. Now, we did have 3 Case company stores as well, and they got the contract instead of the IH dealer. I'll give you some examples of what happened: In town A, there was a huge IH truck/ag equipment dealer that competed against a Case company store. The company store got the CaseIH contract. In town B, IH had just got a dealer from a smaller town 20 miles away or so put up a new dealership in a town that had no IH dealer at the time. Case had a company store right down the road from the new IH dealership. The Case company store got the CaseIH dealership, but....the IH dealer had the contract for the building written up so that if IH sold out, they had to buy the building(he must have had a good lawyer with a crystal ball to foresee the future). The Case company store ended up in the new IH dealership store down the road. In town C, the IH dealership won the contract for the CaseIH dealership. The Case dealer(privately-owned) moved nearly 100 miles away to setup a new CaseIH dealership in another town that had no dealership for either brand. In town D, the Case and IH dealers were bitter rivals, with the IH dealer getting the CaseIH contract. The Case dealer would still service his customers' old tractors for many years after by getting parts from another CaseIH dealership an hour away. There was no way he would get parts from the local dealer who got the contract. Probably the most interesting situation occurred in Yankton, SD, where the former IH dealer sued Case and IH for taking his IH franchise away and giving it to the Case dealer in town. This lawsuit lasted for nearly 10 years before Case settled out of court with the guy for several million dollars. He then went a bought a Chevrolet dealership
  2. Jim Minnehan worked for years with the combine group, dealt with him several times through the years. Last I can remember him was when the 2388s first came out, which will be 20 years ago this fall. I would imagine he is retired by now. Pete, did you ever work with a guy by the name of Floyd Jensen? Seems like everybody that worked for IH in the 1960-1980s in South Dakota knew Floyd, and had great respect for him. He worked for CaseIH a few years after the merger as well before he retired. He maybe didn't call on any Minnesota dealers as he was based out of Sioux Falls. I'm guessing you worked with Dave Christofferson and Ken Ohnell through the years. As far as Gerry Salzman, I believe he retired from CaseIH a year or 2 ago. I think that's what was said when he was a Red Power Roundup last month. Cam Beert used to work with the custom cutter support(ProHarvest) for many years after he retired from CaseIH. I haven't seen him since 2010-2011 or so.
  3. No need to apologize. The people mentioned on here who have worked for their local dealerships for a lifetime are just as important to their local customers as any big company rep is-if not more. They are the local "face" of the company-without them, a big company like CaseIH, Deere, Cat, or any other big company is just some big, fat pig that hides in the background while taking your $$$(just like the government-lol). I also understand your point that most farmers/customers do not deal directly with company reps on a routine basis. That's the way it should be. I wish more emphasis was on dealer personnel doing their job sometimes by the big companies. Too many times I see on the machinery talk blogs that customers perceive their local dealer as a bumbling idiot that can't fix a simple problem. Too many times I have seen a communication breakdown between the dealer and company that just makes everybody mad-customer, dealer, and company. A lot of this could be fixed with just a little more effort on all parties involved. After the ag economy took the big downturn in 2014-15, a lot of longtime company reps were offered early retirement or they just outright separated from the company. Some at their own choosing, some not. Many longtime CaseIH and New Holland reps were gone as a result of downsizing within the company. In defense of the company reps, it would get old living out of a suitcase 5 days a week and different hotel room every night just to get your arse chewed by customers and dealers over something you have little control over. After many years of it, I would take early retirement as well. Years ago I thought that would be a good job to have; nowadays, you couldn't pay me enough to do it.
  4. Pete, that's the guy who is retiring. In his e-mail he says he has been with the company(IH and CaseIH) 33-34 years, so that would put him in the 1983-84 time frame. I'm sure he could be missing a few years. Lol. I realize there are a lot of dealer personnel who have worked for many years at the dealership level, but the "corporate" people usually get offered an early retirement package at some point in time. Its not very often to see a current CNH employee that started with International Harvester before all the mergers. The only other former IH employee I can think of that still may work for CaseIH is a guy that worked for the combines at East Moline until they closed that plant up, then moved to Grand Island for the combines, and then moved back to the Quad Cities a few years ago when they opened up their new header plant in Burlington. I haven't talked to him in awhile so I don't know if he still works for CNH or not.
  5. Got an e-mail about a week ago indicating that one of our longest-tenured reps that started his career with International Harvester is retiring next month. He started with IH in 1983-84 as a service rep. Since then, he's done about every rep job there is with CaseIH; he's been a territory sales manager, product specialist for combines, as well as parts/service support manager. The guy has been a wonderful person to work for and has done a very good job representing the red paint. He will surely be missed!! This got me to thinking the following; how many current CaseIH or Navistar employees can say they started out working for International Harvester? There can't be too many anymore....and their numbers are dwindling every year. Also, another thought comes to mind....going to work for International Harvester at that time would have truly been a leap of faith, to say the least. After IH lost $1.6 billion in 1983 you would wonder why anybody would want a job working for them. Both him and my former IH dealer both have told me the story of one of his first problems he got to deal with shortly after he started working for IH. My IH dealer had sold a new 5288 that the customer had complaints about intermittent loss of power in the field. They had tried filters(air and fuel), checked fuel system pressures/operation, pump timing, and several other items along the way. They ended up finding a hose clamp at the turbocharger-to-intake pipe hose that would stretch when it got hot during a hard pull, causing a massive loss of boost pressure, causing the loss of power. Its funny how after 30+ years both guys involved with the problem remember it so clearly.
  6. Unfortunately, sprayer/vehicle accidents are becoming too commonplace anymore. Once the booms are folded up, that sprayer operator has virtually NO peripheral vision-he can see what's straight ahead of him and that's it. We have installed several cab camera setups on SP sprayers in the last 2-3 years to try and improve all-around visibility-its still far from enough. The worst accident had to be 5-6 years ago when the son of a BTO was decapitated in a brand-new pickup when he was going through a rural 4-way stop intersection and got hit by an SP sprayer right in the driver's door. The sprayer operator never saw him.
  7. I would agree with 615 spike on being for a corn head. No fingers in the middle like a grain head has.
  8. Unfortunately John, there are a lot of hydraulic lines under the cab...which I'm sure you're more than aware of. To access all those lines under the cab, CaseIH offered some cab lifting brackets that mounted in the areas where the cab mount bolts are- 2 up front, 2 in the back. You used those to raise the entire cab 6-8" to get access to those lines. Unfortunately, there were several lines under the cab that could give problems as far as leaks go. Sorry I can't be of more help.
  9. If its part# 47797679, its a bracket for the actuator for the pivoting unloading auger spout used on the newer combines that people have tried to retrofit to older machines. Somebody tried and failed to make it work, or they didn't like it and took it off?
  10. Here's a picture of what I will call a normal wheat field in our area this year. The kochia weed in the middle is a foot tall or so- the wheat is shorter than that. The heads have few, if any, kernels in them. Guys are using the big Rowse v rakes like Dale560 has pictured on his post to try and make a windrow that a baler can pickup. I heard a story today about a guy who tried to combine a field of wheat that had some high $$$ seed used for it- he quit after 16 acres when he had 300 lbs. of grain in the grain tank. He wondered why his yield monitor kept showing 0 for his instant yield all the time-it was reading correctly. The other picture shows my outside temp in the service truck.
  11. One big difference-the D-282 has 4 main bearings, the D-310 has 7. I think the D-282 was a great engine in the 560/656, I think it was a poor engine in the 706 and 660s when they turned much faster. My dad bought one of the first 706s in late 1963/early 1964 that had the D-282. It was his big horse from 1964 until 1978 when the 1086 showed up. It has about 10,000 hours on it anymore, but the only thing original on the D-282 anymore is the block itself. The head cracked back in the 1970s, I broke the crankshaft in it while cultivating corn in the 1980s... several sets of sleeves & pistons, the injection pump was replaced as well through the years. Us kids always remarked that if anybody but our dad owned that tractor it would have been traded in a long time ago. Sad thing is, its still one of my favorite tractors at the farm. Dad remarked more than once that he could have paid another $1500 and got the 806 that was sitting right beside it at the dealership when he bought the 706-he would have been money ahead in the long run.
  12. Dale, we are right in the middle of that dry area, and its getting worse. Most of the wheat around here has been put up for hay,,,and it didn't even make good hay. Some fields were so short guys just turned their cattle out in the wheat...it was so short they couldn't cut with sickle mowers!! Most of the custom cutters are just driving through as there is very little wheat to harvest. Now, for the guys that did have wheat to harvest, the crop is decent. Yields of 30-40 bpa being reported, but what is most impressive is the test weight and protein. I seen some winter wheat last week that was better than 17% protein, which is in heard of. Test weights of 60-63 lbs as well. That kind of wheat has been bringing $7.50/8.00 a bushel. To give you an idea of what its like, a customer of ours purchased 2 used 8240 combines to do over 3000 acres this spring. He's only going to harvest 1 section with the combines, the rest of it got turned into hay. We just went through 4 days straight of 100+ degree heat, so everything is going downhill fast. When I jumped in my pickup Friday after work, the thermometer showed 117 degrees. Just have to pace yourself when its that hot. Drink lots of fluids, take lots of breaks. Don't think I'll have to worry about working on too many combines this wheat harvest.
  13. Chris, this has been 20 years ago or better, but I think I've got most of my info correct. The original lube setup for the 4366/early 4386 dropbox has a fitting on the top of the dropbox that sprayed oil down onto the gears/shafts during operation(the fitting had an orifice in it so that a certain volume of oil was supplied to the box). The later setup had fittings in the back bearing caps on the top 2 shafts that supplied oil to the shafts directly which also had crossdrillings in them so that the oil was supplied to the bearings/shafts under pressure instead of just a splash lube setup. I know IH had a bulletin on this from many years ago on what all was needed to do the conversion. I can remember doing a few of these many, many years ago after the original setup would fail, causing a high $$$ repair. I want to say the change was about the same time they went to the wet brakes on the 4386s instead of the dry brakes like the 4366s had. Sorry I can't be more specific as I can't find the bulletin anymore that listed all the details. As far as the IH 4wds, I'm probably harder on them than what they deserve. When I started in this business, those tractors were 10-15 years old and had been doing hard tillage their entire life; their weaknesses and years of hard work were showing up at that time. At that time the only reason 4wds were used was hard tillage work. In the 1980s, the government was paying farmers to "set aside" 10-20% of their farmground-meaning they were not to plant the ground. Around here that ground was summerfallowed so those tractors got many hours of working that ground with a chisel plow to keep the weeds down. You might work that ground 4-5 times in the summer so that you could plant winter wheat into that ground the next fall. Like others have mentioned, there were many Versatiles and Steigers around here at that time-and they had a much better reputation overall. The only complaint about Versatiles was that they were a little light-and the axles were a little light for dozer work. The biggest problem I have with the Steigers from a technician's standpoint is that there were so many combinations of drivetrains that it felt like you were working on a completely different tractor when you went from one machine to another. Different engines, different transmissions, different axles made you have to be on your toes when working on them and ordering parts. If the same model had 2 different engine choices(Caterpillar vs. Cummins), they used different air conditioner compressors, alternators, starters, etc. I would have thought somebody at the time would have tried harder to get parts commonality between all their machines. As far as V-8s and diesels and 4wd tractors are concerned, my opinion is that a lot of the problems with this combination started in the 1980s when fuel costs were high so everybody wanted to "shift up and throttle back" under less than full load. That seems to be when the V-8s had their problems. Part of it was the 5 main bearings on a V-8 vs. the 7 mains on an inline 6. The DV-800 was like every other V-8 diesel developed in the 1970s/80s-it was originally designed for truck applications. No different than the 903/555 Cummins, 3208/3408 Cat, IH DV-550, Scanias used in the Case 4994, Deere's 955 used in the 8850s, etc. The only one that ever seemed to have a good reputation was the 3408 used in the ST-450 Steiger. The Deere 955 did not have a real good reputation around here-with the exception of one BTO around here that just retired his 2 8850s a couple years ago with over 12,000 hours apiece on them.
  14. That tractor has been there for awhile. I've seen it the last few times I've been down to Ames/Nevada for CaseIH service training. IIRC, there's a construction company right next to it. Looks like the 4100 and all the other old tractors around it are in good shape for their age.
  15. I've taken a lot of heat on here over the years for my thoughts on the Steiger-built IH 4wds-but I still feel the same way about them as I always have. I'm an IH red guy through and through, but their 4wds were not a great subject in my area. As far as the 4386s, they probably did have the best reputation of the bunch, as long as somebody realized they had a small 4wd and left them alone. I always wondered how IH thought they could compete with a DTI-466 running at 3000RPM set at 230 HP against an 835 Versatile running 235HP while using an 855 Cummins running at 2100RPM. The 4366s and early 4386s had problems with the dropbox/transfer case due to inadequate lubrication that was fixed on later models. The 4586s had too much power for the bull gear rear end setup borrowed from IHs 2wds. If somebody wasn't watching their oil levels in the rear ends, the ring and pinions would fail due to lack of lubrication. Hate to say it, but IH's "high-horsepower program" as a whole had a lot of problems in the late 1970s/early 1980s time frame. Their 4wds had problems(although one could argue Deere's 8630/8640 4wds weren't much better overall), the 14/1586 tractors had their own issues at that time, and the 2+2s were having problems with everybody turning them up only to find out that the drivetrain was pretty much maxxed out in stock HP form. All of those tractors caused a lot of defections from IH in the mid 1980s in my area. Sad thing is, there were a lot of 86 series tractors sold in our area in the 1978-1981 time frame. When 1981-82 came around, they were forced to hold onto those tractors longer than they intended to due to all the bad things happening in agriculture at the time(high inflation, high interest rates, low commodity prices, Russian grain embargo, PIK program, etc.)