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#1 TroyDairy

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:33 PM

I know IH never made a SPFH (why?) but I was wodering whom here has one? I am concidering doing it ourselves again since the hourly rate is going up every year ($370/hr now) and buying a used one plus fuel an parts pencils to be cheaper now. Either a JD or a NH since Claas is wayyy outta my price range. Besides near every Claas in my $ range has 4000+ hours and newer engines. Them Mercedes are ancors from what I can tell. Any info from you Red guys?

What, there is another color tractor besides red? Your kidding! I got a 1066, 186 (16k orig hrs), MX170, 8930+, 7140, 464 G, 684, C50, 585, 544E, 60xt, 135 McCormick, ok and a little orange scraping tractor. And we use all of them on the dairy.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 07:26 PM

Claas is the best chopper on the market, Mercedes motors are far from anchors, very few motor issues in any Claas around here. We run a chipped Claas 850.
What are you looking to spend? 491 series Claas machines are coming down in price and are excellent machines and are comparable price wise to the Deeres.
Dont know much about NH as none of them ever made it more than one season anywhere around here. Anybody that owned one spent more time fixing than chopping.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:56 PM

Well I guess it all depends on how much you want to spend. Around 30 to 40 g's you'll get the most out of a NH 19 or 21 series. Getting into the 70 to 100 g's a claas 800 series chopper is the best for the money. You will get the most for your buck with a NH in the older market because the drive train is much heavier and and the spout is much more versatile then a JD chopper. The newer choppers are very close and I would go with whoever the best dealer is. Class is built really nice, very handy to work on. No matter what chopper your going to buy, if used, these machines have more then likely been used hard will need work periododicly, just remember a big chopper when broke means big repair bills unless you are able to do the repairs yourself and then parts can be pricey. Knives and shear bar in a pull type is on average 5 to $700, spfh same parts can be as much as 2 grand or more. Also big choppers need big support like bigger mower and merger and trucks and packing tractor. Don't know what you have on your dairy, just putting those things out there because I've known farmers that up grade not thinking about the rest of it. Good luck with your search. I'll tell you once you start using a spfh you'll wander why you didn't do it sooner. :)
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:36 PM

Around a $100k is budget. The deal here with Claas is that some guys are trading them for Deeres b/c parts are getting crazy. Also NO ONE has made it over 3000 hrs with out a significant engine failure or need of a rebuild. And Mercedes is a bugger to get engine parts for. Our guy said it was over $23000 and 6-8 weeks for parts etc b/c they dont offer a KIT for a engine. Individual parts only. He is looking at a Deere of new 9080 NH b/c of the parts prices and availabilty. We have a custom guy with a tinkered with 900 so the rest of the team is capable of keeping up. Been thinking of a 50 series Deere b/c they are the most common around here(parts and real good chopper tech). The couple FX guys across the border like their machines to though. And the NH dealer is good people. Since we sold our 900 I acually miss going in there. I do think Deere may be smart b/c way more aftermarket parts out there. Some good, some bad but there are 5-6 dairymen with them around to help with where to get what where. The Deere dealer is a buncha......well if you cant say anything nice. Thanks so far...........

What, there is another color tractor besides red? Your kidding! I got a 1066, 186 (16k orig hrs), MX170, 8930+, 7140, 464 G, 684, C50, 585, 544E, 60xt, 135 McCormick, ok and a little orange scraping tractor. And we use all of them on the dairy.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 06:49 AM

All I can say is if your Deere dealer isn't the best go with the machine that has the best support, because when you have 200 acres flat and you have a brake down you need a good dealer who will do what it takes to get you going. The fx series are good choppers I think one of the few draw backs are they have the old style blower in them, the FX58 or 60 both have cat 3406's in them wich are bullet proof motors. Some of the smaller one have evicos motors in them and I have heard that they are good on fuel but don't know how tough they are. A friend has a FX58 and it's been a good chopper for him and he has a great dealer which is a must. Around here a lot of guys went with claas over the Deere 50 series and now with the 7000 series people have been going back. I think I would take a FX over a 50 series Deere. Hope that helps
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:56 AM

Ummm, do none of you dairymen make silage in the rest of the counrty? Fiugred this would get a few debates moving at least of pull vs. self propelled. Why does eveerything have to cost more and be needed when prices are down?

What, there is another color tractor besides red? Your kidding! I got a 1066, 186 (16k orig hrs), MX170, 8930+, 7140, 464 G, 684, C50, 585, 544E, 60xt, 135 McCormick, ok and a little orange scraping tractor. And we use all of them on the dairy.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:32 AM

We have a NH 1900(currently down right now, decided to put new bearings in the engine snd noticed this and that along the way) but we only milk 65-70 cows. It's been good to us, considering rebuilding the cutterhead and feedrolls simce it was used and not well kept up. Have an 892 as backup which is good right now.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

i have a self propelled fox 6250 that is my backup chopper. does that count? :) :rolleyes: we use a nh 900 pull type for the heavier use. neighbor has a 2115 nh that would be my choice if i was to buy a bigger machine. probably won't happen anyway.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:14 PM

There isn't much of a debate between pull and self propelled choppers. SPFH have more capacity, are built heavier, and you don't hurt your neck having to sit in the seat sideways and staring at the head and wagon or truck. If you have the finances and need, I would buy one without hesitation. At scholden's equipment in lynden Washington, which I imagine isn't a long way from you they have a nice looking 87' 2100 which is a late model which will have some of the options that a 2115 would have for 29000 and it's been there a while so I'm sure the price is negotiable. If that's to old, they also have a FX25 for 77000 and that's been there a while also, so go check them out and you'll see why there isn't much debate. I owned a late model 2100 a while ago and they are a tough machine to beat for their age.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:14 PM

We had a 900 for 10 years. KP and all. 200+ac of corn and 200+ acres or grass 5x-6x a year and then we got a the 8930. It wore out fast then! Good machines but it was about 16 hours for grass and 40 for corn. Them 2115/2100 are cheap and have great reviews. Horning makes a processor for 'em but man they are all old now also. Can anyone say why IH never made a chopper? A year ago a guy in Holland was trying to sell a FX38 that was painted and stickerd CIH. A FHX420 or something was model and he said in EU they sold 'red' FXs as CIH machines.. Never seen one again

What, there is another color tractor besides red? Your kidding! I got a 1066, 186 (16k orig hrs), MX170, 8930+, 7140, 464 G, 684, C50, 585, 544E, 60xt, 135 McCormick, ok and a little orange scraping tractor. And we use all of them on the dairy.

For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required"
Luke 12:48




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