Ok I've been looking into a newer truck. I found a F350 that is already set up the way I would like it. I have heard many different stories about the 6.4's. So if anyone has one can you give me your thoughts on it. The way I understand it, if they had a programmer, or a chip on them.....Walk away from them, is this true?
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:31 PM
The worst thing I've heard is that they are thirsty. A chip or program ain't necessarily an engine killer. Depends on how it's been treated. Some guys chip em and use them as necessary with good maintenance. Some take em to the drag strip and beat the wheels off of em. Try to get a feel for the seller.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:03 PM
ive heard they run good on programmers, 600 HP with just a tune on stock equipment. and hold together..
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325 acres of corn, beans, oats and alfalfa crop rotation.
80 cow Holstein milking operation.
Tractors on the Farm: Case IH MX Magnum 200, MX Magnum 180, McCormick MTX 135, Case IH MX 110, IH 686 D312 diesel, Farmall DX55 compact tractor, Farmall Super M, stage II, Case 650 dozer. IH 1420 axial flow. Run Red
My Tractors: 1957 Farmall 350 NF work tractor, 1950 Farmall H NF that dad and I fully restored from the ground up, Cub Cadet 100 w/ creeper gear. Cub Cadet 682. BLACK SHEEP: 1951 Massey Harris 44, GM 350 conversion tractor.
Classic Car: 1974 AMC Matador, 19,000 org miles, 360CI.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:00 AM
Gas engine mileage on more expensive diesel fuel. Close sources said 8-10 mpg tops.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:57 AM
there not the best but they are better than the 6.0 powerjokes which just suck period. if i were you id get one of the 7.3 powerstrokes because they are better engine and i beieve that they last long imo
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:42 AM
The 6.4 is a hot rod when tuned! Delete the dpf and get a tuner that will support that mod. Fuel economy will go up greatly with those mods. Yes it will cost about a grand but if you plan on keeping it awhile it will pay off in the long run. Look for milage to go from 10ish upto 16-18ish depending on driving style. I wouldn't expect a 6.4 to go a million miles like a 7.3 but 400-500k would be a reasonable expectation. Also block off or delete the egr coolers. The egr cooler is not as big of a problem on the 6.4 as it was on the 6.0 but I'm still leary of them on anything!
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:09 AM
This is my opinion fords make a good platform for a cummins. I have an 85 F250 with an engine out of a 93 dodge and I get 22 mpg on the freeway. My plan is to convert a superduty and have a really nice truck.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:21 AM
The 6.4 is a hot rod when tuned! Delete the dpf and get a tuner that will support that mod. Fuel economy will go up greatly with those mods. Yes it will cost about a grand but if you plan on keeping it awhile it will pay off in the long run. Look for milage to go from 10ish upto 16-18ish depending on driving style. I wouldn't expect a 6.4 to go a million miles like a 7.3 but 400-500k would be a reasonable expectation. Also block off or delete the egr coolers. The egr cooler is not as big of a problem on the 6.4 as it was on the 6.0 but I'm still leary of them on anything!
I just talked to a guy at work today that has a 2009. He has done everything you just said. An has had the same results you talked about. He is VERY happy with his choose of truck. He was a Dodge/Cummins guy for a long time too. He said with the mod's he has do it runs like a beast. Thanks
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:37 AM
I've been a Ford guy most of my life, but if I were in the market for a diesel P/U I think I'd buy a DuraMax - smooth, quiet, powerful, relatively reliable and efficient.
Yes, I'd prefer a Cummins, but there is no way I'd own another Chrystler product, a great engine is useless when the rest of the vehicle is falling apart around it.
As to the PowerStrokes - until this most recent Ford built one that hasn't been out long enough to prove anything good or bad, there hasn't been much good to say since the 7.3, and then you're talking about a 10+ year old truck.
With current fuel prices, if a 6.4 is only going to get 10 to 14 MPG, myself, I think I'd buy a gasser of some sort that will get 7 to 12 - the entry price will be lower & the maintenance is much cheaper. The diesels are fun, and if pulling trailers 75% of the time, are the only way to go, but $50 oil changes and $3000 for a set of injectors make it hard to justify in my mind.
Yes, I'd prefer a Cummins, but there is no way I'd own another Chrystler product, a great engine is useless when the rest of the vehicle is falling apart around it.
As to the PowerStrokes - until this most recent Ford built one that hasn't been out long enough to prove anything good or bad, there hasn't been much good to say since the 7.3, and then you're talking about a 10+ year old truck.
With current fuel prices, if a 6.4 is only going to get 10 to 14 MPG, myself, I think I'd buy a gasser of some sort that will get 7 to 12 - the entry price will be lower & the maintenance is much cheaper. The diesels are fun, and if pulling trailers 75% of the time, are the only way to go, but $50 oil changes and $3000 for a set of injectors make it hard to justify in my mind.
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