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#1 Jesse in WI

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:16 AM

I'm having a sporatic issue with my '05 Ford Focus and I'm not sure if it involves the fuel system or the ignition system. Every morning the car starts just fine. I drive it to work and leave it sit for 9 hours and sometimes, not everytime, when I turn the key the engine just cranks and does not fire. I crank for 5-10 seconds and stop, then crank again and usually fires up but spits and sputters like it's not getting enough fuel until I just touch the gas pedal then it runs fine. I've noticed this is more frequent when the temp is above 65° but still doesn't do it every time. I have noticed rare occasions that while driving along the engine will "miss" and you lose power momentarily and then it fires again and along you go. This happened to me last night and I have noticed it in the past on occasion.

Engine is the 2.2L with DOHC and 5 speed transmission.

I realize that because this is not occurring regularly that there is no way to really find the cause, but I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone has run across this problem before. The car always starts in the end but I do get a little nervous that one of these days I'm going to be stuck somewhere because it doesn't start.

There are no check engine lights coming on when this happens and the car has 110,000 miles on it.

Thanks for any input on the situation.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:38 AM

I'm not a tech but I had an f 150 that did that evertime the fuel filter began to plug. New filter fixed the problem for another year til it started doing it again.

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#3 Jesse in WI

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

That's what I was kind of thinking Jerry. The problem is that if this car is anything like the older Escort I used to have the filter is on the end of the fuel pump in the tank. To replace the filter it would cost you a fuel pump. If this is the problem I hope I can change the pump by lifting up the back seat like I could with the Escort.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:23 PM

I'm not a tech either, but it sounds like it could be an electric fuel pump that's at the end of its life. My co-worker's wife's Focus of slightly newer vintage had a fuel pump replaced with half the miles as yours.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

On another note, coil pack could be failing.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:39 PM

I'm not a tech either but it sound like it could be a fuel pump to me. My Chevy Cavalier acted like that until one day it died on me.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:11 PM

Have you hooked up a code reader on it? might not hurt anything to try and see if it has thrown a code.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:20 PM

I've had the car since 50k miles and have not seen the check engine light come on ever. Is it possible to have codes without the light coming on? I called the dealership service dept and when I told him no light on he told me that unless it acted up at the dealership he wouldn't be able to do much with it.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:42 PM

i dont think if it is a fuel pump bc they dont ussually start when there not giving enough fuel pressure. you could have a sensor starting to go bad but not enough to turn the light on yet. my car needs the camshaft sensor because its acting somethen like yours. but idk im not a ford expert hope everything works out for ya

#10 Jesse in WI

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

After doing some "google-ing" about the subject it appears the fuel pump appears to be a weak point at the 100k mark which is where I'm at. It also appears that the tank needs to be dropped to replace the fuel pump :o . On my '90 Escort there was a removable panel under the back seat for just this repair, but it seems that was making life too easy for the engineers at Ford. Everything I've read says there is not magic panel and people are actually cutting a hole under the back seat to repair fuel pumps so they don't have to drop the tank.

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My Equipment:
-Farmall 656
-IH Model 70 3-14" Moldboard Plow

-1944 JD B (Hand Start)
-John Deere No. 51 1-16" Moldboard Plow

Dad's Tractors
-350U
-1939 H SN:616

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