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[Loadstar]

Loadstar, your comments regarding the Massey Harris model numbers has made me realise the 745 model tractors were from Great Britain, I had assumed they were from Canada.

A bit of research shows they were fitted with Perkins L4 diesel engines.

I had no idea Massey had a Perkins connection with that series of tractors. Here in North America they used the Continental diesel or gas engines. Not til the Ferguson alliance did they show up with a Perkins diesel option. Like this little model 50 from a 1958 ad. No more mention of Massey Harris from then on.

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[Loadstar]

Although this is not exactly a machinery ad, it does have a tractor in it and shows what the well dressed farmer was wearing to work back in 57. Or at least what the Great Western Garment company hoped he was.

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[CASE IH CS68]

I have a large library of documentation of tractors and agricultural machinery IH and Case IH, the oldest of which date back in very good condition with the 1930 Farmall F 12. If you wish, I can scan some examples for you to share my passion for the brand IH.
Here are two pages of advertising from the 1980s on IH tractors and combine harvesters.

I will send you pictures of my IH and Case IH equipment on my farm, but also, I will scan photos for brochures and IH CASE IH French .


Please post your material.

Always interesting to see the differences from the various countries.

My schoolboy French is very rusty but I can 'read' the images OK.

[Loadstar]

International's tractors for 1957. The "power line".

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[A554]

Loadstar, your comments regarding the Massey Harris model numbers has made me realise the 745 model tractors were from Great Britain, I had assumed they were from Canada.

A bit of research shows they were fitted with Perkins L4 diesel engines.

I had no idea Massey had a Perkins connection with that series of tractors. Here in North America they used the Continental diesel or gas engines. Not til the Ferguson alliance did they show up with a Perkins diesel option. Like this little model 50 from a 1958 ad. No more mention of Massey Harris from then on.

Loadstar, a bit more research using 'A World-Wide guide to Massey-Harris, Ferguson and early Massey Ferguson Tractors' by John Farnworth.

In this book the tractors are grouped by country of manufacture. It shows the MH 745, a 745S and a 744PD as being built in UK at Kilmarnock, Scotland.

The 745 and 745S are shown as being powered by a Perkins L4 diesel engine developing 54hp. The 744PD was powered by a Perkins P6 diesel engine developing 42hp.

There are no dates shown for these tractors but as the ad for the 745 in Australia was in the 1950s, my assumption is they were produced after WW2. All other models of MH tractors sold in UK were imported in knock down form and fitted with local wheels, tyres etc.

Another thing I found interesting from this book is that of the tractors produced in North America, only the MH Pony was built in Canada and all other models built in USA. As MH was a Canadian company, I had just assumed most tractors were manufactured in Canada.

[A554]

Two ads for Ferguson and Massey Ferguson tractors from the late 1950s.

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[Loadstar]

Loadstar, a bit more research using 'A World-Wide guide to Massey-Harris, Ferguson and early Massey Ferguson Tractors' by John Farnworth.
Another thing I found interesting from this book is that of the tractors produced in North America, only the MH Pony was built in Canada and all other models built in USA. As MH was a Canadian company, I had just assumed most tractors were manufactured in Canada.

That is surprising. I had assumed being a Canadian company meant all their tractors originated out of Canada.
Here is one page of a 3 page ad showing the line of Massey equipment. The little 65 was a popular tractor.

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[Loadstar]

And some of the older Massey Harris tractors from 1956. The triple 4 and 5 were a popular tractor.

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[George 2]

Loadstar:

The old Massey Harris 333, 444, 555 etc were made in Racine. WI (old JI Case plowworks plant). The newer TO35, MF50, 65, 85, 88 and the 1100 series were all made at Ferguson Park in Detroit. Ferguson Park was closed in the early 1980's. I took a tour through that plant in December 1967.

[ozfarm]

744 came about from a groundnut scheme in africa, MH was going to supply , but it had to be diesel, so a P6 was fitted to the US chassis

groundnut scheme didnt eventuate, so u might find most of the 744 ended up down here