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#1 hagan

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 02:15 PM

We grow a lot of alfalfa hay and this past winter i purchased another swather a NewHolland to run with the CaseIH i presently have.

Well yesterday the CaseIH got hot and it seems the lower radiator hose got a weak spot and leaked the coolant out and when the machine got to 240 the boy shut it down and i went and got new hoses and coolant and when we started it up to add coolant i realized it had ruined the engine. It has 4,000 hours and is a 3.9 cummins engine that has NO sleeves. It has so much blow by that the dipstick blew out and the blow-by tube runs like a exhaust.

The local dealer wants $4250 for a re-built engine that we have to take all the stuff off of mine and put on the rebuilt one so it will add up more yet.

I found a used engine out of a swather at a salvage yard for $3500 complete exhange and it will bolt right in it is running and we can do it here at the farm.

I plan to run this machine another year or so and then try and find another later model machine to trade it for but feel the used engine is the way to go.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:00 PM

We grow a lot of alfalfa hay and this past winter i purchased another swather a NewHolland to run with the CaseIH i presently have.

Well yesterday the CaseIH got hot and it seems the lower radiator hose got a weak spot and leaked the coolant out and when the machine got to 240 the boy shut it down and i went and got new hoses and coolant and when we started it up to add coolant i realized it had ruined the engine. It has 4,000 hours and is a 3.9 cummins engine that has NO sleeves. It has so much blow by that the dipstick blew out and the blow-by tube runs like a exhaust.

The local dealer wants $4250 for a re-built engine that we have to take all the stuff off of mine and put on the rebuilt one so it will add up more yet.

I found a used engine out of a swather at a salvage yard for $3500 complete exhange and it will bolt right in it is running and we can do it here at the farm.

I plan to run this machine another year or so and then try and find another later model machine to trade it for but feel the used engine is the way to go.

Well today we got the swather in the shop and decided to drop the engine out the bottom rather than remove all the sheet metal and the circular screen. It was a little trouble but not as bad as i thought. Hopefully will have time to get other engine this week or next.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:01 PM

We grow a lot of alfalfa hay and this past winter i purchased another swather a NewHolland to run with the CaseIH i presently have.

Well yesterday the CaseIH got hot and it seems the lower radiator hose got a weak spot and leaked the coolant out and when the machine got to 240 the boy shut it down and i went and got new hoses and coolant and when we started it up to add coolant i realized it had ruined the engine. It has 4,000 hours and is a 3.9 cummins engine that has NO sleeves. It has so much blow by that the dipstick blew out and the blow-by tube runs like a exhaust.

The local dealer wants $4250 for a re-built engine that we have to take all the stuff off of mine and put on the rebuilt one so it will add up more yet.

I found a used engine out of a swather at a salvage yard for $3500 complete exhange and it will bolt right in it is running and we can do it here at the farm.

I plan to run this machine another year or so and then try and find another later model machine to trade it for but feel the used engine is the way to go.

Well today we got the swather in the shop and decided to drop the engine out the bottom rather than remove all the sheet metal and the circular screen. It was a little trouble but not as bad as i thought. Hopefully will have time to get other engine this week or next.
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Why not bore it and overhaul it? At least then you know what you have.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 10:35 PM

We grow a lot of alfalfa hay and this past winter i purchased another swather a NewHolland to run with the CaseIH i presently have.

Well yesterday the CaseIH got hot and it seems the lower radiator hose got a weak spot and leaked the coolant out and when the machine got to 240 the boy shut it down and i went and got new hoses and coolant and when we started it up to add coolant i realized it had ruined the engine. It has 4,000 hours and is a 3.9 cummins engine that has NO sleeves. It has so much blow by that the dipstick blew out and the blow-by tube runs like a exhaust.

The local dealer wants $4250 for a re-built engine that we have to take all the stuff off of mine and put on the rebuilt one so it will add up more yet.

I found a used engine out of a swather at a salvage yard for $3500 complete exhange and it will bolt right in it is running and we can do it here at the farm.

I plan to run this machine another year or so and then try and find another later model machine to trade it for but feel the used engine is the way to go.

Well today we got the swather in the shop and decided to drop the engine out the bottom rather than remove all the sheet metal and the circular screen. It was a little trouble but not as bad as i thought. Hopefully will have time to get other engine this week or next.
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Why not bore it and overhaul it? At least then you know what you have.


I'd at least tear it apart and check to see if it is rebuildable....it may have cracked the block, the head may be so warped it can't be milled enough, etc.

It's not like you need the machine next week, do you? You can take the time to have it rebuilt?
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:57 AM

About $100 a hole to bore and resleave

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:20 PM

HE SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO KEEP THE MACHINE ANYWAY. PUT USED ENGINE IN IT AND SEND IT DOWN THE ROAD. LOL WHY DIDNT YOU PULL THE ENGINE? WHY DROP IT OUT THE BOOTOM. EASY TO WORK STANDING UP THAN LAYING DOWN UNLESS YOU GET TIRED A LOT AND WANT TO TAKE A SNOOZE EVERY NOW AND THEN. LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:46 PM

HE SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO KEEP THE MACHINE ANYWAY. PUT USED ENGINE IN IT AND SEND IT DOWN THE ROAD. LOL WHY DIDNT YOU PULL THE ENGINE? WHY DROP IT OUT THE BOOTOM. EASY TO WORK STANDING UP THAN LAYING DOWN UNLESS YOU GET TIRED A LOT AND WANT TO TAKE A SNOOZE EVERY NOW AND THEN. LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah he could put the used motor in it and it may not make it long enough to be worth the effort.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:52 PM

I WOULD HAVE MADE THE YARD RUN IT IN FRONT OF ME BEFORE I BOUGHT IT IF POSSIBLE.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:48 PM

I WOULD HAVE MADE THE YARD RUN IT IN FRONT OF ME BEFORE I BOUGHT IT IF POSSIBLE.


Just because it runs doesn't mean it hasn't been abused, neglected, hammered, etc.

He did say he would like to keep and run the machine for another year.

I'd seriously tear the engine down and compare costs of having this one rebuilt (know what you have) and buying a junk yard engine that runs, but you have no idea what the history is on it.
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 07:22 AM

That 3.9 is just a 4BT isnt it? You should be able to find one ALOT cheaper then that.
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