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#1 DT361

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:26 PM

Picked up a valve and seat grinder set-up. didn't have a manual. wondering if anyone on here has one; has info; or first and foremost, can someone direct me to the appropriate coolant/lube for this machine.

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Mark


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here's a pic of the unit

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450 gasser #37895; 1206 #7930

#2 M Diesel

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:07 PM

Cool little machine. How bad is the wear on rotating parts?

Ifn nobody pops up with answers I'll hit up somebody that knows this stuff all too well. Planning on experimenting with some angles?
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:18 PM

Machine is in very good condition for being 30-ish yrs old. No play in either table slide...nice and tight on the micrometer screws....belts are good.

Tip resurfacing pivot needs a bit of attention...seems that someone didnt seat it correctly and clamped the set screw to the round instead of the flat....doesn't want to go in all the way. A little carefull burr filing should do the trick.

Came with one new angle stone, 1/2 dozen seat stones, couple stone holders, handfull of pilots, both diamond facers in fair condition. $350 and I had to drive a couple hundred to pick it up.

I've got about a dozen heads to do...

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:19 PM

I don't know much about the Black and Decker brand, but as far as the oil, I've been using cutting and grinding oil from NAPA. Trying to find anyone in this county that knew anything about valve and seat grinders is like pulling teeth. I've got a K.O. Lee valve grinder and a Sioux seat grinder set...spent less than $200 for both sets pretty much complete and with lots of stones.
Just went and looked at my bottle of oil...it's water soluble, so if you don't stir it up every now and then it gets to stinking a little bit...the NAPA part number is 765-1526 and that is a pint bottle that you dilute quite a bit. My bottle is still half full because I didn't need to fill the grinder any more than that. Hope this helps.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:27 PM

$200 ...heckuva deal.

Wonder if I can get anything non-water soluble.....screw the EPA.

Thanks for the info.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:38 PM

hi the water soluble is all you need you need. we have a ko lee valve black and decker seat grinder from the 50s has been used alot the only problem is 20* intakes on jd 619s we marked the machine with a new valve. we used to grind all of our own heads now with all the customer tractors the head goes out for planing and setting of valve height but on all of our own stuff we still do the valves. dale

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 07:12 PM

Picked up a valve and seat grinder set-up. didn't have a manual. wondering if anyone on here has one; has info; or first and foremost, can someone direct me to the appropriate coolant/lube for this machine.

Thx in adv
Mark


Edit;

here's a pic of the unit

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Let me check at school. I got rid of one of those a couple of years ago and I think I still have the manual.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:23 AM

Let me check at school. I got rid of one of those a couple of years ago and I think I still have the manual.

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Thanks. Appreciate that.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 12:45 PM

I have a Van Dorn grinder. a local tractor dealership sold out last fall. I got the Van Dorn which was ready to run and in really tight shape, along with a black and decker seat grinder set up. there is a good bit of seat stuff but you would want to fill in the blanks if you were going to use every day. I paid 100 dollars for the lot. I don't use the seat grinder as i cut seats with carbide cutters. valve grinder works terrific however. its just old as the hills
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 01:03 PM

$100....even better deal than Sparky! ...you guys are startin' to make me think I overpaid! LOL

Thanks for all the input.

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