what do you guys like better i personally like the hydro better.
hydro vs stick transmition
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, Nov 05 2008 11:40 AM
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:09 PM
Depends on what Your doing. Mowing and just pulling a small cart around the yard a Hydro is great. But I also spray My yard with a scaled down version of a field sprayer, Be tough to fit 60 foot booms between My trees! 
I need a constant ground speed to spray accurately and a gear drive is much more consistent at keeping speed. Also on hard pulls, just like on the full-size FARMALL's Hydro's tend to get really hot. 6-7 yrs ago at IHCUBCADET Plow Day #2 in the fall the bean ground We plowed had just been combined when kinda wet and it was packed hard like blacktop. Ground turned over in huge slabs. My little 10 HP gear drive CC would only pull My plow in low gear, would just die right out in 2nd. The Hydros would pull their plows faster, but also had more HP, Guys I was running with had a 1450, 169, and a hot 782. Couple of the Hydros actually boiled the Hytran out of their tractors. The rearend of My little gear drive was still cold.
One thing I will say, When I worked at FARMALL the Boss of the Fork Truck garage also repaired/maintained the CC's they used to pull the trash hoppers around the plant. Those CC's were run 7-8 hrs per day, 5 & 6 days per week. And the carts were 4 ft wide x 8 ft long x 4 ft tall welded steel (heavy!) and FULL of everything from busted up wooden pallets to crushed cardboard boxes, sometimes they'd hook 2 & 3 carts together into trailer trains. And the Hydro's proved to be MUCH more durable than the gear drives with clutches. Just like automatic trans trucks are rated to tow more than manual trans trucks. All depends on how You take care of them!
I need a constant ground speed to spray accurately and a gear drive is much more consistent at keeping speed. Also on hard pulls, just like on the full-size FARMALL's Hydro's tend to get really hot. 6-7 yrs ago at IHCUBCADET Plow Day #2 in the fall the bean ground We plowed had just been combined when kinda wet and it was packed hard like blacktop. Ground turned over in huge slabs. My little 10 HP gear drive CC would only pull My plow in low gear, would just die right out in 2nd. The Hydros would pull their plows faster, but also had more HP, Guys I was running with had a 1450, 169, and a hot 782. Couple of the Hydros actually boiled the Hytran out of their tractors. The rearend of My little gear drive was still cold. One thing I will say, When I worked at FARMALL the Boss of the Fork Truck garage also repaired/maintained the CC's they used to pull the trash hoppers around the plant. Those CC's were run 7-8 hrs per day, 5 & 6 days per week. And the carts were 4 ft wide x 8 ft long x 4 ft tall welded steel (heavy!) and FULL of everything from busted up wooden pallets to crushed cardboard boxes, sometimes they'd hook 2 & 3 carts together into trailer trains. And the Hydro's proved to be MUCH more durable than the gear drives with clutches. Just like automatic trans trucks are rated to tow more than manual trans trucks. All depends on how You take care of them!
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:55 PM
I prefer gear drive. I feel like I have more control.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:09 PM
I have used both, and like Dr. Evil said, each one has its place. Have to agree that gear drive gives a feeling of more control(it does for me, anyway). The hydro Cub I used to use for mowing, a 1710, was super on the flat, but it had a tendency to slow down on hills and embankments if you didn't keep after it.
I'm hoping that we get some real snowfall this winter so I can have some fun pushing snow with my 582, now that it's all back together. I could probably have a good bit of the street plowed out before the city snowplow even shows up, as slow as the city is ...
I'm hoping that we get some real snowfall this winter so I can have some fun pushing snow with my 582, now that it's all back together.
I could probably have a good bit of the street plowed out before the city snowplow even shows up, as slow as the city is ...
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:49 AM
Hydro for mowing!
Gear for snow plow or mowing large yards!
Gear for snow plow or mowing large yards!
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:30 PM
Both have their advantages in specific areas. A hydro will be the most useful (and least costly to maintain) to the average owner.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 10:47 AM
The hydro Cub I used to use for mowing, a 1710, was super on the flat, but it had a tendency to slow down on hills and embankments if you didn't keep after it.
I noticed that on my 1864 too. It will also slow down when making sharp turns if you are going slow enough. If you have your ground speed up then there's no problem.
Personally I prefer Hydro's over gear drives on a lawn & garden tractor.
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